Can't believe I'm the first one to post this, but your inner Star Wars geek will thank me. (Thank you fark.com)
Can't believe I'm the first one to post this, but your inner Star Wars geek will thank me. (Thank you fark.com)
Brad Helmink
Motion Media, LLC
p:?310-450-4000?x204
f: 310-450-4444
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AUTODESK,?ADOBE,?THE FOUNDRY,?RED GIANT,
BLACKMAGIC,?AJA,?MATROX, E-ON,?MAXON, NEXTLIMIT,
APPLE, 3DCONNEXION,??PIXOLOGIC,?PIPELINEFX,?VRAY,
HP, GEFEN,?G-TECHNOLOGY,?NVIDIA, IMAGINEER, and
many more.
For all people that will be in Toronto next Thursday evening…
-john
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3. Re: dense storage footprint (Ben Kitching)
4. Re: dense storage footprint (Matt Benns)
5. Re: dense storage footprint (Douglas Atkinson)
6. Re: Your preferred Linux Desktop Environment (Don Craig)
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9. Re: Your preferred Linux Desktop Environment (Jimmy Christensen)
10. Deploying your Adobe Cloud Team Installs (Brad Helmink)
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12. Re: Fwd: (John Burton)
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(Jean-Francois Panisset)
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15. Re: dense storage footprint (greg whynott)
16. Re: dense storage footprint (Jean-Francois Panisset)
17. Re: dense storage footprint (greg whynott)
18. Re: dense storage footprint (Saker Klippsten)
19. Re: ghetto Flare (Dan Young)
20. Re: Fwd: (Dan Young)
21. Re: Deploying your Adobe Cloud Team Installs (Rob LaRose)
22. Re: Deploying your Adobe Cloud Team Installs (Wayne Chang)
23. Re: Deploying your Adobe Cloud Team Installs (Rob LaRose)
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25. Re: Deploying your Adobe Cloud Team Installs (Rob LaRose)
26. Re: Deploying your Adobe Cloud Team Installs
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27. Re: Deploying your Adobe Cloud Team Installs
(Jean-Francois Panisset)
28. Re: Deploying your Adobe Cloud Team Installs (Rob LaRose)
29. Re: Deploying your Adobe Cloud Team Installs (Nick Allevato)
30. Re: Deploying your Adobe Cloud Team Installs (Wayne Chang)
31. Re: ghetto Flare (Pete Smith)
32. Re: Your preferred Linux Desktop Environment (Don Craig)
33. Re: Your preferred Linux Desktop Environment (Jimmy Christensen)
34. StudioSysAdmins Meeting - Toronto (2013-02-21) (John Hickson)
35. Re: ghetto Flare (Dan Young)
36. Re: Your preferred Linux Desktop Environment (Don Craig)
37. Re: dense storage footprint (Cal Sawyer)
38. Re: dense storage footprint (Saker Klippsten)
39. Re: Your preferred Linux Desktop Environment (Shane McEwan)From: Brian Krusic <brian@krusic.com>Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] dense storage footprintDate: 11 February 2013 16:28:36 GMTTo: discuss@studiosysadmins.comReply-To: discuss@studiosysadmins.comWhat, 1/2 PB in 8U???On Feb 11, 2013, at 7:33 AM, Pete Smith wrote:480TB in 8U using Nexsan E60 and E60X.
On 11 February 2013 13:58, Matt Benns <Matt.Benns@springstudios.com> wrote:Was looking at something similar recently..Netapp – not my first choice – have something, which spec wise looks quiteniceOption 1 is the Nexsan E48 - 48x 4TB Drives - (192TBs into 4U - 4x 8Gbit FCPorts & 4x 1GBit iSCSI ports)Option 2 is the NetApp produced V2 box 60x 4TB Drives - (240TBs into 4U 8x8GBit FC Ports)Option 2 is quite good.. Not bad price as well under £60K cheaper than thenexsanMattOn 09/02/2013 03:05, "Brian Krusic" <brian@krusic.com> wrote:Hi,I'm finding 256TB raw storage in an 8U footprint as dense as possible using3.5" drives.Has any one found something more dense?- Brianwww.krusic.com<http://www.krusic.com>______________________________________________________________________This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service.For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com______________________________________________________________________________________________________To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail tomailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeTo unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail tomailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribe
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To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeFrom: Ben Roeder <ben.roeder@sohonet.com>Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] dense storage footprintDate: 11 February 2013 17:22:14 GMTTo: discuss@studiosysadmins.comReply-To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com
These all have the option to have a proc right next to your disks, if you are building a cluster of some sort
http://www.dell.com/us/enterprise/p/poweredge-c8000/pd?~ck=anav
with all drive cans can be 48 drives in 4U
SuperMicro active chassis with 36 drives in 4u
Tyan have a similar box coming
These were really good but where killed 3 years ago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Fire_X4500
You can get the nasty 'coffin' boxes that have 60 drives, http://www.raidinc.com/products/storage-solutions/ebod/4u-ebod/ , but they are about ~2m deep and will pull your rack over when you slide it out to replace broken drives.
There are also the LSI based chassis 60 drive chassis, but they have no proc.
Open compute looks interesting, but funny size racks 30 drives 2U
http://www.opencompute.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Open_Compute_Project_Open_Vault_Storage_Specification_v0.7.pdf
http://www.opencompute.org/projects/storage/
Ben Roeder
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On 11 Feb 2013, at 15:59, Richard McGuinness wrote:dell now do a 60 drive chassis called a md 3660 in 4u can alsoexpand using the drive only chassispretty good value from what ive seen.....Richard McGuinnessCommercial DirectorEscape Studios+44 (0) 20 7348 1920http://techstore.escapestudios.co.ukOn 11 February 2013 15:33, Pete Smith <pete@realisestudio.com> wrote:480TB in 8U using Nexsan E60 and E60X.On 11 February 2013 13:58, Matt Benns <Matt.Benns@springstudios.com> wrote:Was looking at something similar recently..Netapp – not my first choice – have something, which spec wise looks quiteniceOption 1 is the Nexsan E48 - 48x 4TB Drives - (192TBs into 4U - 4x 8Gbit FCPorts & 4x 1GBit iSCSI ports)Option 2 is the NetApp produced V2 box 60x 4TB Drives - (240TBs into 4U 8x8GBit FC Ports)Option 2 is quite good.. Not bad price as well under £60K cheaper than thenexsanMattOn 09/02/2013 03:05, "Brian Krusic" <brian@krusic.com> wrote:Hi,I'm finding 256TB raw storage in an 8U footprint as dense as possible using3.5" drives.Has any one found something more dense?- Brianwww.krusic.com <http://www.krusic.com>______________________________________________________________________This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service.For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com______________________________________________________________________________________________________To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail tomailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeTo unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail tomailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribe--Pete SmithDevOp/System AdministratorRealise Studio12/13 Poland Street, London W1F 8QBT. +44 (0)20 7165 9644realisestudio.comTo unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeTo unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeFrom: Ben Kitching <Ben.Kitching@Jigsaw24.com>Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] dense storage footprintDate: 11 February 2013 17:34:07 GMTTo: "<discuss@studiosysadmins.com>" <discuss@studiosysadmins.com>Reply-To: discuss@studiosysadmins.comSGI do a nice chassis that will take up to 81 3.5" drives in 4U, you can get processing in there as well if you lose 9 of those drives.Frighteningly dense, they even do modules to allow up to 162 2.5" drives in the same chassis.Ben Kitching | Solutions ArchitectCall me on: 0115 916 5530 | Or Mobile: 07739326609 | Email me at: Ben.Kitching@Jigsaw24.com | Check out: www.Jigsaw3D.comOn 11 Feb 2013, at 17:22, Ben Roeder <ben.roeder@sohonet.com> wrote:These all have the option to have a proc right next to your disks, if you are building a cluster of some sort
http://www.dell.com/us/enterprise/p/poweredge-c8000/pd?~ck=anav
with all drive cans can be 48 drives in 4U
SuperMicro active chassis with 36 drives in 4u
Tyan have a similar box coming
These were really good but where killed 3 years ago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Fire_X4500
You can get the nasty 'coffin' boxes that have 60 drives, http://www.raidinc.com/products/storage-solutions/ebod/4u-ebod/ , but they are about ~2m deep and will pull your rack over when you slide it out to replace broken drives.
There are also the LSI based chassis 60 drive chassis, but they have no proc.
Open compute looks interesting, but funny size racks 30 drives 2U
http://www.opencompute.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Open_Compute_Project_Open_Vault_Storage_Specification_v0.7.pdf
http://www.opencompute.org/projects/storage/
Ben Roeder
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On 11 Feb 2013, at 15:59, Richard McGuinness wrote:dell now do a 60 drive chassis called a md 3660 in 4u can also
expand using the drive only chassis
pretty good value from what ive seen
.....
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On 11 February 2013 15:33, Pete Smith <pete@realisestudio.com> wrote:480TB in 8U using Nexsan E60 and E60X.To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribe
On 11 February 2013 13:58, Matt Benns <Matt.Benns@springstudios.com> wrote:Was looking at something similar recently..
Netapp – not my first choice – have something, which spec wise looks quite
nice
Option 1 is the Nexsan E48 - 48x 4TB Drives - (192TBs into 4U - 4x 8Gbit FC
Ports & 4x 1GBit iSCSI ports)
Option 2 is the NetApp produced V2 box 60x 4TB Drives - (240TBs into 4U 8x
8GBit FC Ports)
Option 2 is quite good.. Not bad price as well under £60K cheaper than the
nexsan
Matt
On 09/02/2013 03:05, "Brian Krusic" <brian@krusic.com> wrote:
Hi,
I'm finding 256TB raw storage in an 8U footprint as dense as possible using
3.5" drives.
Has any one found something more dense?
- Brian
www.krusic.com <http://www.krusic.com>
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To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeFrom: Matt Benns <Matt.Benns@springstudios.com>Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] dense storage footprintDate: 11 February 2013 17:41:29 GMTTo: <discuss@studiosysadmins.com>Reply-To: discuss@studiosysadmins.comRe: [SSA-Discuss] dense storage footprint Only thing with the e60 is it wont fit into a standard rack , to long...
Matt
On 11/02/2013 16:28, "Brian Krusic" <brian@krusic.com> wrote:What, 1/2 PB in 8U???
- Brian
www.krusic.com <http://www.krusic.com>
On Feb 11, 2013, at 7:33 AM, Pete Smith wrote:480TB in 8U using Nexsan E60 and E60X.
On 11 February 2013 13:58, Matt Benns <Matt.Benns@springstudios.com> wrote:Was looking at something similar recently..
Netapp – not my first choice – have something, which spec wise looks quite
nice
Option 1 is the Nexsan E48 - 48x 4TB Drives - (192TBs into 4U - 4x 8Gbit FC
Ports & 4x 1GBit iSCSI ports)
Option 2 is the NetApp produced V2 box 60x 4TB Drives - (240TBs into 4U 8x
8GBit FC Ports)
Option 2 is quite good.. Not bad price as well under £60K cheaper than the
nexsan
Matt
On 09/02/2013 03:05, "Brian Krusic" <brian@krusic.com> wrote:
Hi,
I'm finding 256TB raw storage in an 8U footprint as dense as possible using
3.5" drives.
Has any one found something more dense?
- Brian
www.krusic.com <http://www.krusic.com> <http://www.krusic.com>
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mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeFrom: Douglas Atkinson <doug63@gmail.com>Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] dense storage footprintDate: 11 February 2013 17:52:27 GMTTo: "discuss@studiosysadmins.com" <discuss@studiosysadmins.com>Reply-To: discuss@studiosysadmins.comXyratex has a 5U 84 drive with 3.5" and 2.5" support. SAS connected.
Sent from my mobile device, please excuse spelling mistakes.Douglas Atkinson604-619-9430Re: [SSA-Discuss] dense storage footprint Only thing with the e60 is it wont fit into a standard rack , to long...
Matt
On 11/02/2013 16:28, "Brian Krusic" <brian@krusic.com> wrote:What, 1/2 PB in 8U???
- Brian
www.krusic.com<http://www.krusic.com>
On Feb 11, 2013, at 7:33 AM, Pete Smith wrote:480TB in 8U using Nexsan E60 and E60X.
On 11 February 2013 13:58, Matt Benns <Matt.Benns@springstudios.com> wrote:Was looking at something similar recently..
Netapp – not my first choice – have something, which spec wise looks quite
nice
Option 1 is the Nexsan E48 - 48x 4TB Drives - (192TBs into 4U - 4x 8Gbit FC
Ports & 4x 1GBit iSCSI ports)
Option 2 is the NetApp produced V2 box 60x 4TB Drives - (240TBs into 4U 8x
8GBit FC Ports)
Option 2 is quite good.. Not bad price as well under £60K cheaper than the
nexsan
Matt
On 09/02/2013 03:05, "Brian Krusic" <brian@krusic.com> wrote:
Hi,
I'm finding 256TB raw storage in an 8U footprint as dense as possible using
3.5" drives.
Has any one found something more dense?
- Brian
www.krusic.com<http://www.krusic.com> <http://www.krusic.com>
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mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeTo unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeFrom: Don Craig <dmc@arboretumstudios.com>Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] Your preferred Linux Desktop EnvironmentDate: 11 February 2013 18:08:55 GMTTo: Discuss@StudioSysAdmins.comReply-To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com
I recently went through an install of Ubuntu 12.10 on a fairly decent system:
Core i7-3930K @3.20 GHz with 64GB Ram and Qty 3 Geforce GTX 690's.
The only way I could get mplayer, vlc, or choose your own poison video player
to display all the image frames it was supposed to was to shoot the
default window manager - Compiz - and replace it with metacity 2D.
I kind of liked Compiz' whizzy features, but it wasn't possible to get smooth
playback with it.
I tried tweaking a bunch of parameters under Compiz first, but with no success.
Don CraigFrom: Andrew Spurbeck <andrew@rfx.com>Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] Fwd:Date: 11 February 2013 18:27:07 GMTTo: discuss@studiosysadmins.comReply-To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com
damn, thats twice this morning from two different sources...
-=Andrew
RFX
323-962-7400
On 2/10/2013 9:01 PM, Greg Ercolano wrote:On 02/10/13 19:32, John Burton wrote:I've also noticed more recent instances in which the cosmetic name is someone I know, but address is unrelated.Like make the contact list was scooped, but that's it, and is being sent from other accounts.Ya, I've seen those too.In these weird recent cases with relatives, it was different; the real person'semail address was used for From:, Reply-To:, and Return-Path, and the 'Received:' trailshowed it to originate from google's servers, not random bots.For JR's spam, the trail is:1) Received: from localhost (c-50-149-132-219.hsd1.va.comcast.net.[50.149.132.219]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id er20so5433885lab.32 for <discuss@studiosysadmins.com>; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 18:59:04 -0800 (PST)2) Received: by mail-la0-f45.google.com with SMTP id er20so5433885lab.32 for <discuss@studiosysadmins.com>; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 18:59:04 -0800 (PST)3) Received: from mail-la0-f45.google.com (mail-la0-f45.google.com [209.85.215.45]) by mail.creativityreactor.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A27CC0A56 for <discuss@studiosysadmins.com>; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 22:59:05 -0400 (AST)4) Received: [..dances its way through the studiosysadmin's delivery chain..]So I take it 50.149.132.219 is somebody's 'botted box, perhaps acting as a proxy.This is very similar to the message I received from a cousin whose gmail account was similarly jackedwith sending a one-line url:1) Received: from localhost (66-87-64-116.pools.spcsdns.net. [66.87.64.116]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gi3sm11550778lab.7.2013.02.05.11.48.32 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 05 Feb 2013 11:48:37 -0800 (PST)2) Received: by mail-la0-f42.google.com with SMTP id fe20so601358lab.1 for <erco@seriss.com>; Tue, 05 Feb 2013 11:48:38 -0800 (PST)]3) Received: from mail-la0-f42.google.com (mail-la0-f42.google.com [209.85.215.42]) by qs1134.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E97941414for <erco@seriss.com>; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 14:48:40 -0500 (EST)4) [..dances through my local mail delivery chain..]So there's similarities in that both directly connected to mx.google.comand used SMTP, letting mx.google originate the message. I imagine to do this,the botted machine has to send the user's valid email + password. The resultbeing a message that would fool spam filters.There's also similarities in the two spam message's Message-ID:Message-ID: <51116215.0369980a.32d2.09dd@mx.google.com>Message-ID: <51185e77.ca93980a.4614.ffffcd96@mx.google.com>..which I imagine is google's SMTP interface assigning a Message-IDto the message because the sender didn't assign one; it's lettinggoogle handle originating the message.Sampling my inbox, it's a rare few messages out of thousands wheregmail originated messages have a Message-ID assigned with @mx.google.com..most are @gmail.com.To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeFrom: Andrew Spurbeck <andrew@rfx.com>Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] Fwd:Date: 11 February 2013 18:27:39 GMTTo: discuss@studiosysadmins.comReply-To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com
lol +1
-=Andrew
RFX
323-962-7400
On 2/10/2013 7:04 PM, John Burton wrote:This sounds like a job for Sandboxie. :)On 2013-02-10, at 7:03 PM, John Burton <jburton@geckotemple.com> wrote:I dunno about anyone else, but I for one am not opening that.On 2013-02-10, at 5:58 PM, John Ryan <jnr0123@gmail.com> wrote:http://www.colpermessodellafortuna.it/i0lwqj.php?s=otTo unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeTo unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeTo unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeFrom: Jimmy Christensen <lithorus@gmail.com>Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] Your preferred Linux Desktop EnvironmentDate: 11 February 2013 18:56:49 GMTTo: discuss@studiosysadmins.comReply-To: discuss@studiosysadmins.comI can recommend switching to cinnamon. It's gtk-3 looking like a modern gnome 2.x.
On Feb 11, 2013 7:09 PM, "Don Craig" <dmc@arboretumstudios.com> wrote:I recently went through an install of Ubuntu 12.10 on a fairly decent system:
Core i7-3930K @3.20 GHz with 64GB Ram and Qty 3 Geforce GTX 690's.
The only way I could get mplayer, vlc, or choose your own poison video player
to display all the image frames it was supposed to was to shoot the
default window manager - Compiz - and replace it with metacity 2D.
I kind of liked Compiz' whizzy features, but it wasn't possible to get smooth
playback with it.
I tried tweaking a bunch of parameters under Compiz first, but with no success.
Don Craig
To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeFrom: Brad Helmink <brad@motionmedia.com>Subject: [SSA-Discuss] Deploying your Adobe Cloud Team InstallsDate: 11 February 2013 19:10:19 GMTTo: discuss@studiosysadmins.comReply-To: discuss@studiosysadmins.comFYI...Adobe has released a pdf today that provides an overview of the workflow, tools and additional docs available for IT admins to help with deploying and updating the applications of the Creative Cloud utilizing their existing infrastructure.This has been a huge headache previously for select clients of ours so I thought you might be interested in this...Thanks,Brad HelminkMotion Media, LLCp: 310-450-4000 x204f: 310-450-4444
AUTODESK, ADOBE, THE FOUNDRY, RED GIANT,BLACKMAGIC, AJA, MATROX, E-ON, MAXON, NEXTLIMIT,APPLE, 3DCONNEXION, PIXOLOGIC, PIPELINEFX, VRAY,HP, GEFEN, G-TECHNOLOGY, NVIDIA, IMAGINEER, andmany more.From: Will Rosecrans <will-r@moving-picture.com>Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] Fwd:Date: 11 February 2013 20:09:41 GMTTo: "discuss@studiosysadmins.com" <discuss@studiosysadmins.com>Reply-To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com
Doing it this way is probably enough of an impersonation to fool a lot of
"general audiences," but the person being imitated doesn't get bounces of
undelivered mail, and people can't trivially reply to say "Yo dude, ur
hacked." Because of that, you don't get the email a few minutes later
saying "DON'T CLICK THAT! I DIDN'T SEND IT!." So, the number of people
you miss with the phishing due to bad impersonation may be balanced by the
number of people you would lose from the hacked person noticing.
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In a message from 2/10/13 7:32 PM, "John Burton" <jburton@geckotemple.com>
wrote:I've also noticed more recent instances in which the cosmetic name issomeone I know, but address is unrelated. Like make the contact list wasscooped, but that's it, and is being sent from other accounts.From: John Burton <jburton@geckotemple.com>Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] Fwd:Date: 11 February 2013 21:16:08 GMTTo: discuss@studiosysadmins.comReply-To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com
Just reminded me of what we at EACanada called the "MSN-Based IQ Test" in the mid-2000s, with the text "Hey, is this a picture of you?" and a link that would include your email address, which made it all the more tempting. The number of people popping up from their cubicles and yelling "Nobody Click That!" was pretty hilarious. Especially when it'd been an hour or two after a wave, and then that one guy who just got back from dodgeball league, and didn't know, clicked on the link, and triggered it all over again.
JB
On 2/11/2013 12:09 PM, Will Rosecrans wrote:Doing it this way is probably enough of an impersonation to fool a lot of"general audiences," but the person being imitated doesn't get bounces ofundelivered mail, and people can't trivially reply to say "Yo dude, urhacked." Because of that, you don't get the email a few minutes latersaying "DON'T CLICK THAT! I DIDN'T SEND IT!." So, the number of peopleyou miss with the phishing due to bad impersonation may be balanced by thenumber of people you would lose from the hacked person noticing.--MPC LAWill Rosecrans | Engineer1437 4th Street, 4th Floor, Santa Monica, CA 90401310.526.5800 www.moving-picture.com <http://www.moving-picture.com/>In a message from 2/10/13 7:32 PM, "John Burton" <jburton@geckotemple.com>wrote:I've also noticed more recent instances in which the cosmetic name issomeone I know, but address is unrelated. Like make the contact list wasscooped, but that's it, and is being sent from other accounts.To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeFrom: Jean-Francois Panisset <panisset@gmail.com>Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] Deploying your Adobe Cloud Team InstallsDate: 11 February 2013 21:35:21 GMTTo: discuss@studiosysadmins.comReply-To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com
I just read this document quickly, but this seems to make things even
more difficult than before. Whoever wrote something like:
"On the Sign In Required screen the Adobe ID used to package the CS6
software will be displayed. It is important to provide instructions to
the users to select Not Your Adobe ID.
Now the user will be able to sign in with their Adobe ID that is
associated with the Creative Cloud for
teams membership on the Sign In screen.
Note: The optimal sequence/timing of this workflow and the related
process of sending out
invitations via the Creative Cloud Admin Console depends on the
schedule and communication about
the deployment as well as the overall rollout plan of the Creative
Cloud in the organization."
has clearly never dealt with user support issues and software
deployment at scale, or is having quite a laugh right now. This also
seems to assume that workstations are assigned to specific users, and
that the specific copy of CS6 on a specific workstation needs to be
licensed to a specific user.
JF
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Brad Helmink <brad@motionmedia.com> wrote:FYI...Adobe has released a pdf today that provides an overview of theworkflow, tools and additional docs available for IT admins to help withdeploying and updating the applications of the Creative Cloud utilizingtheir existing infrastructure.This has been a huge headache previously for select clients of ours so Ithought you might be interested in this...http://www.motionmedia.com/v/vspfiles/assets/pdf/adobe/CCT_IT_Deployment_Guide.pdfThanks,Brad HelminkMotion Media, LLCp: 310-450-4000 x204f: 310-450-4444www.motionmedia.comAUTODESK, ADOBE, THE FOUNDRY, RED GIANT,BLACKMAGIC, AJA, MATROX, E-ON, MAXON, NEXTLIMIT,APPLE, 3DCONNEXION, PIXOLOGIC, PIPELINEFX, VRAY,HP, GEFEN, G-TECHNOLOGY, NVIDIA, IMAGINEER, andmany more.To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail tomailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeFrom: Jean-Francois Panisset <panisset@gmail.com>Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] dense storage footprintDate: 11 February 2013 21:48:53 GMTTo: discuss@studiosysadmins.comReply-To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com
I'm not a big fan of "pullout" chassis: they tend to be overly deep
and cause rack mounting nightmares, and I never trust the "cable
management" arms to not rip out the power cord or fibre cables when
I'm pulling out the unit. Replacing a failed drive is already
sufficiently stressful (I always worry about pulling out the wrong
drive, even with ID lights) without having to worry about pulling out
the enclosure (and as someone mentioned, there's always the risk of
tipping over the rack if it isn't sufficiently well bolted down).
One exception is some Engenio / NetApp shelves I saw at a show last
year: the drives are mounted on "cookie sheets" so you would pull out
only one "sheet" of drives, not the whole thing, and the cable
management looked robust. (searching around a bit) NetApp E5460:
https://communities.netapp.com/videos/2036
Cable management demo at 3:40. No idea what the pricing is like...
JF
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Douglas Atkinson <doug63@gmail.com> wrote:Xyratex has a 5U 84 drive with 3.5" and 2.5" support. SAS connected.Sent from my mobile device, please excuse spelling mistakes.Douglas Atkinson604-619-9430On 2013-02-11, at 9:41, Matt Benns <Matt.Benns@springstudios.com> wrote:Only thing with the e60 is it wont fit into a standard rack , to long...MattOn 11/02/2013 16:28, "Brian Krusic" <brian@krusic.com> wrote:What, 1/2 PB in 8U???- Brianwww.krusic.com <http://www.krusic.com>On Feb 11, 2013, at 7:33 AM, Pete Smith wrote:480TB in 8U using Nexsan E60 and E60X.On 11 February 2013 13:58, Matt Benns <Matt.Benns@springstudios.com> wrote:Was looking at something similar recently..Netapp – not my first choice – have something, which spec wise looks quiteniceOption 1 is the Nexsan E48 - 48x 4TB Drives - (192TBs into 4U - 4x 8Gbit FCPorts & 4x 1GBit iSCSI ports)Option 2 is the NetApp produced V2 box 60x 4TB Drives - (240TBs into 4U 8x8GBit FC Ports)Option 2 is quite good.. Not bad price as well under £60K cheaper than thenexsanMattOn 09/02/2013 03:05, "Brian Krusic" <brian@krusic.com> wrote:Hi,I'm finding 256TB raw storage in an 8U footprint as dense as possible using3.5" drives.Has any one found something more dense?- Brianwww.krusic.com <http://www.krusic.com> <http://www.krusic.com>______________________________________________________________________This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service.For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com______________________________________________________________________________________________________To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail tomailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeTo unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail tomailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeTo unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail tomailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeTo unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail tomailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeFrom: greg whynott <greg.whynott@gmail.com>Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] dense storage footprintDate: 11 February 2013 22:00:39 GMTTo: "discuss@studiosysadmins.com" <discuss@studiosysadmins.com>Reply-To: discuss@studiosysadmins.comthe NetApp shelves you speak of (E5400) put 60 drives into 4U. I was looking at them for a luster project but we ended up not deploying luster (...again... sad face). They are a great high density solution, but come at a cost naturally (when compared to supermicro or backblaze solution). If you needed a well supported product for a critical solution, I can't think of many other vendors I'd look at for a pure disk based solution (read no 'heads'). This is an acquired product so you don't get to enjoy RAIDDP yet, but RAID6 is there.Xyratex has a dense solution (ap-2584) if you can spare 1 more U. 84 drives into 5U of space. I believe it to be a JBOD without RAID hardware should that be a concern/requirement.-g
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Jean-Francois Panisset <panisset@gmail.com> wrote:I'm not a big fan of "pullout" chassis: they tend to be overly deep
and cause rack mounting nightmares, and I never trust the "cable
management" arms to not rip out the power cord or fibre cables when
I'm pulling out the unit. Replacing a failed drive is already
sufficiently stressful (I always worry about pulling out the wrong
drive, even with ID lights) without having to worry about pulling out
the enclosure (and as someone mentioned, there's always the risk of
tipping over the rack if it isn't sufficiently well bolted down).
One exception is some Engenio / NetApp shelves I saw at a show last
year: the drives are mounted on "cookie sheets" so you would pull out
only one "sheet" of drives, not the whole thing, and the cable
management looked robust. (searching around a bit) NetApp E5460:
https://communities.netapp.com/videos/2036
Cable management demo at 3:40. No idea what the pricing is like...
JF
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Douglas Atkinson <doug63@gmail.com> wrote:
> Xyratex has a 5U 84 drive with 3.5" and 2.5" support. SAS connected.
>
> Sent from my mobile device, please excuse spelling mistakes.
>
> Douglas Atkinson
> 604-619-9430
>
>
> On 2013-02-11, at 9:41, Matt Benns <Matt.Benns@springstudios.com> wrote:
>
> Only thing with the e60 is it wont fit into a standard rack , to long...
> Matt
>
>
> On 11/02/2013 16:28, "Brian Krusic" <brian@krusic.com> wrote:
>
> What, 1/2 PB in 8U???
>
>
> - Brian
>
> www.krusic.com<http://www.krusic.com>
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 11, 2013, at 7:33 AM, Pete Smith wrote:
>
> 480TB in 8U using Nexsan E60 and E60X.
>
> On 11 February 2013 13:58, Matt Benns <Matt.Benns@springstudios.com> wrote:
>
> Was looking at something similar recently..
> Netapp – not my first choice – have something, which spec wise looks quite
> nice
>
> Option 1 is the Nexsan E48 - 48x 4TB Drives - (192TBs into 4U - 4x 8Gbit FC
> Ports & 4x 1GBit iSCSI ports)
>
> Option 2 is the NetApp produced V2 box 60x 4TB Drives - (240TBs into 4U 8x
> 8GBit FC Ports)
>
> Option 2 is quite good.. Not bad price as well under £60K cheaper than the
> nexsan
>
> Matt
>
>
> On 09/02/2013 03:05, "Brian Krusic" <brian@krusic.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm finding 256TB raw storage in an 8U footprint as dense as possible using
> 3.5" drives.
>
> Has any one found something more dense?
>
> - Brian
>
> www.krusic.com<http://www.krusic.com> <http://www.krusic.com>
>
>
>
>
>
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To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeFrom: Jean-Francois Panisset <panisset@gmail.com>Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] dense storage footprintDate: 11 February 2013 22:09:58 GMTTo: discuss@studiosysadmins.comReply-To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com
Didn't realize those E5460s have RAID controllers. Wonder if the
DE6600 expansion shelves could be used for pure JBOD applications
(ZFS?), or if they have to be linked to an E5460 controller.
JF
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 2:00 PM, greg whynott <greg.whynott@gmail.com> wrote:the NetApp shelves you speak of (E5400) put 60 drives into 4U. I waslooking at them for a luster project but we ended up not deploying luster(...again... sad face). They are a great high density solution, but comeat a cost naturally (when compared to supermicro or backblaze solution). Ifyou needed a well supported product for a critical solution, I can't thinkof many other vendors I'd look at for a pure disk based solution (read no'heads'). This is an acquired product so you don't get to enjoy RAIDDPyet, but RAID6 is there.Xyratex has a dense solution (ap-2584) if you can spare 1 more U. 84drives into 5U of space. I believe it to be a JBOD without RAID hardwareshould that be a concern/requirement.-gOn Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Jean-Francois Panisset <panisset@gmail.com>wrote:I'm not a big fan of "pullout" chassis: they tend to be overly deepand cause rack mounting nightmares, and I never trust the "cablemanagement" arms to not rip out the power cord or fibre cables whenI'm pulling out the unit. Replacing a failed drive is alreadysufficiently stressful (I always worry about pulling out the wrongdrive, even with ID lights) without having to worry about pulling outthe enclosure (and as someone mentioned, there's always the risk oftipping over the rack if it isn't sufficiently well bolted down).One exception is some Engenio / NetApp shelves I saw at a show lastyear: the drives are mounted on "cookie sheets" so you would pull outonly one "sheet" of drives, not the whole thing, and the cablemanagement looked robust. (searching around a bit) NetApp E5460:https://communities.netapp.com/videos/2036Cable management demo at 3:40. No idea what the pricing is like...JFOn Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Douglas Atkinson <doug63@gmail.com>wrote:Xyratex has a 5U 84 drive with 3.5" and 2.5" support. SAS connected.Sent from my mobile device, please excuse spelling mistakes.Douglas Atkinson604-619-9430On 2013-02-11, at 9:41, Matt Benns <Matt.Benns@springstudios.com> wrote:Only thing with the e60 is it wont fit into a standard rack , to long...MattOn 11/02/2013 16:28, "Brian Krusic" <brian@krusic.com> wrote:What, 1/2 PB in 8U???- Brianwww.krusic.com <http://www.krusic.com>On Feb 11, 2013, at 7:33 AM, Pete Smith wrote:480TB in 8U using Nexsan E60 and E60X.On 11 February 2013 13:58, Matt Benns <Matt.Benns@springstudios.com>wrote:Was looking at something similar recently..Netapp – not my first choice – have something, which spec wise looksquiteniceOption 1 is the Nexsan E48 - 48x 4TB Drives - (192TBs into 4U - 4x 8GbitFCPorts & 4x 1GBit iSCSI ports)Option 2 is the NetApp produced V2 box 60x 4TB Drives - (240TBs into 4U8x8GBit FC Ports)Option 2 is quite good.. Not bad price as well under £60K cheaper thanthenexsanMattOn 09/02/2013 03:05, "Brian Krusic" <brian@krusic.com> wrote:Hi,I'm finding 256TB raw storage in an 8U footprint as dense as possibleusing3.5" drives.Has any one found something more dense?- Brianwww.krusic.com <http://www.krusic.com> <http://www.krusic.com>______________________________________________________________________This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloudservice.For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com______________________________________________________________________________________________________To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail tomailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeTo unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail tomailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeTo unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail tomailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeTo unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail tomailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeTo unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail tomailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeTo unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail tomailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeFrom: greg whynott <greg.whynott@gmail.com>Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] dense storage footprintDate: 11 February 2013 22:40:56 GMTTo: "discuss@studiosysadmins.com" <discuss@studiosysadmins.com>Reply-To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com-gyou probably could run it as a JBOD (as it supports RAID 0, just would need to create lots of 'non raid sets'.) but you will lose much of the vaule add the solution brings. I didn't see any 'dumb' controllers on thier web site and the box itself doesn't have any ports out the back, which may indicate you require the controller to use it. The controller probably adds about 5-10k to the cost of the solution. It also allows the use of SSD drives for caching too, so you might not want to give that up (think you need Santricity for that as well.).If i didn't want the benefits that the controller brought to the table, I'd probably look closer at the Xyratex solutions.On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Jean-Francois Panisset <panisset@gmail.com> wrote:Didn't realize those E5460s have RAID controllers. Wonder if the
DE6600 expansion shelves could be used for pure JBOD applications
(ZFS?), or if they have to be linked to an E5460 controller.
JF
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 2:00 PM, greg whynott <greg.whynott@gmail.com> wrote:
> the NetApp shelves you speak of (E5400) put 60 drives into 4U. I was
> looking at them for a luster project but we ended up not deploying luster
> (...again... sad face). They are a great high density solution, but come
> at a cost naturally (when compared to supermicro or backblaze solution). If
> you needed a well supported product for a critical solution, I can't think
> of many other vendors I'd look at for a pure disk based solution (read no
> 'heads'). This is an acquired product so you don't get to enjoy RAIDDP
> yet, but RAID6 is there.
>
> Xyratex has a dense solution (ap-2584) if you can spare 1 more U. 84
> drives into 5U of space. I believe it to be a JBOD without RAID hardware
> should that be a concern/requirement.
>
> -g
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Jean-Francois Panisset <panisset@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> I'm not a big fan of "pullout" chassis: they tend to be overly deep
>> and cause rack mounting nightmares, and I never trust the "cable
>> management" arms to not rip out the power cord or fibre cables when
>> I'm pulling out the unit. Replacing a failed drive is already
>> sufficiently stressful (I always worry about pulling out the wrong
>> drive, even with ID lights) without having to worry about pulling out
>> the enclosure (and as someone mentioned, there's always the risk of
>> tipping over the rack if it isn't sufficiently well bolted down).
>>
>> One exception is some Engenio / NetApp shelves I saw at a show last
>> year: the drives are mounted on "cookie sheets" so you would pull out
>> only one "sheet" of drives, not the whole thing, and the cable
>> management looked robust. (searching around a bit) NetApp E5460:
>>
>> https://communities.netapp.com/videos/2036
>>
>> Cable management demo at 3:40. No idea what the pricing is like...
>>
>> JF
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Douglas Atkinson <doug63@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Xyratex has a 5U 84 drive with 3.5" and 2.5" support. SAS connected.
>> >
>> > Sent from my mobile device, please excuse spelling mistakes.
>> >
>> > Douglas Atkinson
>> > 604-619-9430
>> >
>> >
>> > On 2013-02-11, at 9:41, Matt Benns <Matt.Benns@springstudios.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Only thing with the e60 is it wont fit into a standard rack , to long...
>> > Matt
>> >
>> >
>> > On 11/02/2013 16:28, "Brian Krusic" <brian@krusic.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > What, 1/2 PB in 8U???
>> >
>> >
>> > - Brian
>> >
>> > www.krusic.com<http://www.krusic.com>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Feb 11, 2013, at 7:33 AM, Pete Smith wrote:
>> >
>> > 480TB in 8U using Nexsan E60 and E60X.
>> >
>> > On 11 February 2013 13:58, Matt Benns <Matt.Benns@springstudios.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Was looking at something similar recently..
>> > Netapp – not my first choice – have something, which spec wise looks
>> > quite
>> > nice
>> >
>> > Option 1 is the Nexsan E48 - 48x 4TB Drives - (192TBs into 4U - 4x 8Gbit
>> > FC
>> > Ports & 4x 1GBit iSCSI ports)
>> >
>> > Option 2 is the NetApp produced V2 box 60x 4TB Drives - (240TBs into 4U
>> > 8x
>> > 8GBit FC Ports)
>> >
>> > Option 2 is quite good.. Not bad price as well under £60K cheaper than
>> > the
>> > nexsan
>> >
>> > Matt
>> >
>> >
>> > On 09/02/2013 03:05, "Brian Krusic" <brian@krusic.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I'm finding 256TB raw storage in an 8U footprint as dense as possible
>> > using
>> > 3.5" drives.
>> >
>> > Has any one found something more dense?
>> >
>> > - Brian
>> >
>> > www.krusic.com<http://www.krusic.com> <http://www.krusic.com>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeFrom: Saker Klippsten <sakerk@gmail.com>Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] dense storage footprintDate: 11 February 2013 22:47:13 GMTTo: discuss@studiosysadmins.comReply-To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com
Very similar to the open compute platform storage hardware. 30 Drives
in 2U but the OC racks are not standard 19" which is how they get 30
in 2u.
http://www.opencompute.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Open_Compute_Project_Open_Vault_Storage_Specification_v0.7.pdf
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Jean-Francois Panisset
<panisset@gmail.com> wrote:I'm not a big fan of "pullout" chassis: they tend to be overly deepand cause rack mounting nightmares, and I never trust the "cablemanagement" arms to not rip out the power cord or fibre cables whenI'm pulling out the unit. Replacing a failed drive is alreadysufficiently stressful (I always worry about pulling out the wrongdrive, even with ID lights) without having to worry about pulling outthe enclosure (and as someone mentioned, there's always the risk oftipping over the rack if it isn't sufficiently well bolted down).One exception is some Engenio / NetApp shelves I saw at a show lastyear: the drives are mounted on "cookie sheets" so you would pull outonly one "sheet" of drives, not the whole thing, and the cablemanagement looked robust. (searching around a bit) NetApp E5460:https://communities.netapp.com/videos/2036Cable management demo at 3:40. No idea what the pricing is like...JFOn Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Douglas Atkinson <doug63@gmail.com> wrote:Xyratex has a 5U 84 drive with 3.5" and 2.5" support. SAS connected.Sent from my mobile device, please excuse spelling mistakes.Douglas Atkinson604-619-9430On 2013-02-11, at 9:41, Matt Benns <Matt.Benns@springstudios.com> wrote:Only thing with the e60 is it wont fit into a standard rack , to long...MattOn 11/02/2013 16:28, "Brian Krusic" <brian@krusic.com> wrote:What, 1/2 PB in 8U???- Brianwww.krusic.com <http://www.krusic.com>On Feb 11, 2013, at 7:33 AM, Pete Smith wrote:480TB in 8U using Nexsan E60 and E60X.On 11 February 2013 13:58, Matt Benns <Matt.Benns@springstudios.com> wrote:Was looking at something similar recently..Netapp – not my first choice – have something, which spec wise looks quiteniceOption 1 is the Nexsan E48 - 48x 4TB Drives - (192TBs into 4U - 4x 8Gbit FCPorts & 4x 1GBit iSCSI ports)Option 2 is the NetApp produced V2 box 60x 4TB Drives - (240TBs into 4U 8x8GBit FC Ports)Option 2 is quite good.. Not bad price as well under £60K cheaper than thenexsanMattOn 09/02/2013 03:05, "Brian Krusic" <brian@krusic.com> wrote:Hi,I'm finding 256TB raw storage in an 8U footprint as dense as possible using3.5" drives.Has any one found something more dense?- Brianwww.krusic.com <http://www.krusic.com> <http://www.krusic.com>______________________________________________________________________This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service.For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com______________________________________________________________________________________________________To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail tomailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeTo unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail tomailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeTo unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail tomailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeTo unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail tomailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeTo unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeFrom: Dan Young <vfx.it.london@gmail.com>Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] ghetto FlareDate: 11 February 2013 23:05:48 GMTTo: "discuss@studiosysadmins.com" <discuss@studiosysadmins.com>Cc: "discuss@studiosysadmins.com" <discuss@studiosysadmins.com>Reply-To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com
You cheap bastards - I've never seen it done. Would seriously recommend quadro board.
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 11, 2013, at 8:39, Chris Hyman <chris@cyberdyne-services.com> wrote:Suspect yes as people have installed it on laptops before.If it will work correctly is a different question as the GeForce drivers may not have the calls which are available on Quadro/FX cards, but this is flare not flame so not too sure if the same calls will be made.ChrisOn 11 Feb 2013, at 13:21, Pete Smith wrote:Hi allWe're building a ghetto Flare box. Internal RAID, 1GbE instead of 10GbE etc.Can we get away with a GeForce card over a Quadro?http://www.genarts.com/software/sapphire/autodesk hints that it mightbe possible ...--Pete SmithDevOp/System AdministratorRealise Studio12/13 Poland Street, London W1F 8QBT. +44 (0)20 7165 9644realisestudio.comTo unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeTo unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeFrom: Dan Young <vfx.it.london@gmail.com>Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] Fwd:Date: 11 February 2013 23:07:43 GMTTo: "discuss@studiosysadmins.com" <discuss@studiosysadmins.com>Cc: "discuss@studiosysadmins.com" <discuss@studiosysadmins.com>Reply-To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com
Obligatory "hack the planet"
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 11, 2013, at 16:16, John Burton <jburton@geckotemple.com> wrote:Just reminded me of what we at EACanada called the "MSN-Based IQ Test" in the mid-2000s, with the text "Hey, is this a picture of you?" and a link that would include your email address, which made it all the more tempting. The number of people popping up from their cubicles and yelling "Nobody Click That!" was pretty hilarious. Especially when it'd been an hour or two after a wave, and then that one guy who just got back from dodgeball league, and didn't know, clicked on the link, and triggered it all over again.JBOn 2/11/2013 12:09 PM, Will Rosecrans wrote:Doing it this way is probably enough of an impersonation to fool a lot of"general audiences," but the person being imitated doesn't get bounces ofundelivered mail, and people can't trivially reply to say "Yo dude, urhacked." Because of that, you don't get the email a few minutes latersaying "DON'T CLICK THAT! I DIDN'T SEND IT!." So, the number of peopleyou miss with the phishing due to bad impersonation may be balanced by thenumber of people you would lose from the hacked person noticing.--MPC LAWill Rosecrans | Engineer1437 4th Street, 4th Floor, Santa Monica, CA 90401310.526.5800 www.moving-picture.com <http://www.moving-picture.com/>In a message from 2/10/13 7:32 PM, "John Burton" <jburton@geckotemple.com>wrote:I've also noticed more recent instances in which the cosmetic name issomeone I know, but address is unrelated. Like make the contact list wasscooped, but that's it, and is being sent from other accounts.To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeTo unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeFrom: Rob LaRose <rlarose@rockpaperscissors.com>Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] Deploying your Adobe Cloud Team InstallsDate: 11 February 2013 23:15:20 GMTTo: discuss@studiosysadmins.comReply-To: discuss@studiosysadmins.comOY-freaking-vey. Individual sign-ins per user/session? REALLY?--RobOn Feb 11, 2013, at 4:35 PM, Jean-Francois Panisset wrote:I just read this document quickly, but this seems to make things even
more difficult than before. Whoever wrote something like:
"On the Sign In Required screen the Adobe ID used to package the CS6
software will be displayed. It is important to provide instructions to
the users to select Not Your Adobe ID.
Now the user will be able to sign in with their Adobe ID that is
associated with the Creative Cloud for
teams membership on the Sign In screen.
Note: The optimal sequence/timing of this workflow and the related
process of sending out
invitations via the Creative Cloud Admin Console depends on the
schedule and communication about
the deployment as well as the overall rollout plan of the Creative
Cloud in the organization."
has clearly never dealt with user support issues and software
deployment at scale, or is having quite a laugh right now. This also
seems to assume that workstations are assigned to specific users, and
that the specific copy of CS6 on a specific workstation needs to be
licensed to a specific user.
JF
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Brad Helmink <brad@motionmedia.com> wrote:FYI...Adobe has released a pdf today that provides an overview of theworkflow, tools and additional docs available for IT admins to help withdeploying and updating the applications of the Creative Cloud utilizingtheir existing infrastructure.This has been a huge headache previously for select clients of ours so Ithought you might be interested in this...http://www.motionmedia.com/v/vspfiles/assets/pdf/adobe/CCT_IT_Deployment_Guide.pdfThanks,Brad HelminkMotion Media, LLCp: 310-450-4000 x204f: 310-450-4444www.motionmedia.comAUTODESK, ADOBE, THE FOUNDRY, RED GIANT,BLACKMAGIC, AJA, MATROX, E-ON, MAXON, NEXTLIMIT,APPLE, 3DCONNEXION, PIXOLOGIC, PIPELINEFX, VRAY,HP, GEFEN, G-TECHNOLOGY, NVIDIA, IMAGINEER, andmany more.To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail tomailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeTo unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeFrom: Wayne Chang <wcx000@gmail.com>Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] Deploying your Adobe Cloud Team InstallsDate: 11 February 2013 23:16:46 GMTTo: discuss@studiosysadmins.comReply-To: discuss@studiosysadmins.comOY-freaking-vey. Individual sign-ins per user/session? REALLY?
i thought avoiding individual sign-ins was the whole point of Team Cloud.From: Rob LaRose <rlarose@rockpaperscissors.com>Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] Deploying your Adobe Cloud Team InstallsDate: 11 February 2013 23:21:58 GMTTo: discuss@studiosysadmins.comReply-To: discuss@studiosysadmins.comI envisioned activating installations w/ the master key (check out a license)..which would contact license.adobe.com every time it launches to make sure it hasn't been revoked.If it doesn't contact license.adobe.com for 30 days, it stops working (staying off the grid does not make you safe).To get the seat back, I can "de-activate" from the workstation itself (check-in)..or via license.adobe.com (revoke)--RobOn Feb 11, 2013, at 6:16 PM, Wayne Chang wrote:OY-freaking-vey. Individual sign-ins per user/session? REALLY?
i thought avoiding individual sign-ins was the whole point of Team Cloud.
To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeFrom: <craig@scorchedice.com>Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] Deploying your Adobe Cloud Team InstallsDate: 11 February 2013 23:26:36 GMTTo: "discuss@studiosysadmins.com" <discuss@studiosysadmins.com>Reply-To: discuss@studiosysadmins.comI believe there are other things that will go along with each individual sign in... layout preferences, keyboard mapping etc. it will also allow system admins to track individual usage which might be handy for bigger shops.. no?Regards,
Craig Van HorneFrom: Rob LaRose <rlarose@rockpaperscissors.com>Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] Deploying your Adobe Cloud Team InstallsDate: 12 February 2013 00:01:25 GMTTo: discuss@studiosysadmins.comReply-To: discuss@studiosysadmins.comI guess so… tracking people within my group would be fine I suppose, but having everybody using their own individual Adobe ID which is out of my control seems messy.--RobOn Feb 11, 2013, at 6:26 PM, <craig@scorchedice.com> wrote:To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeI believe there are other things that will go along with each individual sign in... layout preferences, keyboard mapping etc. it will also allow system admins to track individual usage which might be handy for bigger shops.. no?Regards,
Craig Van HorneFrom: <craig@scorchedice.com>Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] Deploying your Adobe Cloud Team InstallsDate: 12 February 2013 00:06:52 GMTTo: "discuss@studiosysadmins.com" <discuss@studiosysadmins.com>Reply-To: discuss@studiosysadmins.comI think the individual ID’s are within your control as a sys admin.. you can revoke an individuals access via the admin mechanisms (what those look like I don’t know yet) but from what I understand the individual ID’s are basically granted at the behest of the license owner (the studio) and can be activated or deactivated as needed (hiring, firing) so while you might have a need for only 50 concurrent seats, and have 150 artists working non-concurrently you still only pay for the 50 and manage all the logins at the studio level.At least that is my understanding right now... that would also allow for freelancers to be given and ID for working off-site on a project then revoke the ID once the project wraps or the guy gets fired for not doing the work....Regards,
Craig Van Horne, PrEditor
Producer/Editor
Scorched Ice Digital
403-510-8606
www.scorchedice.com
blog.scorchedice.comFrom: Rob LaRose
Sent: ?February? ?11?, ?2013 ?5?:?01? ?PM
To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com
Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] Deploying your Adobe Cloud Team InstallsI guess so… tracking people within my group would be fine I suppose, but having everybody using their own individual Adobe ID which is out of my control seems messy.--RobOn Feb 11, 2013, at 6:26 PM, <craig@scorchedice.com> wrote:I believe there are other things that will go along with each individual sign in... layout preferences, keyboard mapping etc. it will also allow system admins to track individual usage which might be handy for bigger shops.. no?To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeRegards,
Craig Van HorneFrom: Jean-Francois Panisset <panisset@gmail.com>Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] Deploying your Adobe Cloud Team InstallsDate: 12 February 2013 00:31:56 GMTTo: discuss@studiosysadmins.comReply-To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com
I dream of systems folks from various facilities coming together to
create a standard spec that says "this is how you shall structure the
systems component of your app (licensing, filesystem layout,
preferences...)" and hold a firm "we won't buy your app if you don't
adhere to this spec" line.
Won't happen of course, and I guess this is a pretty boring dream to have...
JF
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:26 PM, <craig@scorchedice.com> wrote:I believe there are other things that will go along with each individualsign in... layout preferences, keyboard mapping etc. it will also allowsystem admins to track individual usage which might be handy for biggershops.. no?Regards,Craig Van HorneTo unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail tomailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeFrom: Rob LaRose <rlarose@rockpaperscissors.com>Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] Deploying your Adobe Cloud Team InstallsDate: 12 February 2013 00:37:21 GMTTo: discuss@studiosysadmins.comReply-To: discuss@studiosysadmins.comPuts me in mind of It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World:"It was a nice dream. Lasted almost five minutes."--RobOn Feb 11, 2013, at 7:31 PM, Jean-Francois Panisset wrote:I dream of systems folks from various facilities coming together to
create a standard spec that says "this is how you shall structure the
systems component of your app (licensing, filesystem layout,
preferences...)" and hold a firm "we won't buy your app if you don't
adhere to this spec" line.
Won't happen of course, and I guess this is a pretty boring dream to have...
JF
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:26 PM, <craig@scorchedice.com> wrote:I believe there are other things that will go along with each individualsign in... layout preferences, keyboard mapping etc. it will also allowsystem admins to track individual usage which might be handy for biggershops.. no?Regards,Craig Van HorneTo unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail tomailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeTo unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeFrom: Nick Allevato <nick@weareroyale.com>Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] Deploying your Adobe Cloud Team InstallsDate: 12 February 2013 00:49:48 GMTTo: discuss@studiosysadmins.comReply-To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com+1 will join must happensoftware companies extending their reach into our computing environments must stop-nick<crown.jpg>On Feb 11, 2013, at 4:31 PM, Jean-Francois Panisset wrote:I dream of systems folks from various facilities coming together to
create a standard spec that says "this is how you shall structure the
systems component of your app (licensing, filesystem layout,
preferences...)" and hold a firm "we won't buy your app if you don't
adhere to this spec" line.
Won't happen of course, and I guess this is a pretty boring dream to have...
JF
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:26 PM, <craig@scorchedice.com> wrote:I believe there are other things that will go along with each individualsign in... layout preferences, keyboard mapping etc. it will also allowsystem admins to track individual usage which might be handy for biggershops.. no?Regards,Craig Van HorneTo unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail tomailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeTo unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeFrom: Wayne Chang <wcx000@gmail.com>Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] Deploying your Adobe Cloud Team InstallsDate: 12 February 2013 00:58:11 GMTTo: discuss@studiosysadmins.comReply-To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com
i like that motif. Hope it doesn't end up overdesigned and too
heavyweight; the X factor would kill the WINDOWS of opportunity.
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Nick Allevato <nick@weareroyale.com> wrote:+1 will join must happensoftware companies extending their reach into our computing environmentsmust stop-nickNick Allevato | Information Technology |Royale |Cell: +1.661.645.3507|Office: +1.323.337.9990On Feb 11, 2013, at 4:31 PM, Jean-Francois Panisset wrote:I dream of systems folks from various facilities coming together tocreate a standard spec that says "this is how you shall structure thesystems component of your app (licensing, filesystem layout,preferences...)" and hold a firm "we won't buy your app if you don'tadhere to this spec" line.Won't happen of course, and I guess this is a pretty boring dream tohave...JFOn Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:26 PM, <craig@scorchedice.com> wrote:I believe there are other things that will go along with each individualsign in... layout preferences, keyboard mapping etc. it will also allowsystem admins to track individual usage which might be handy for biggershops.. no?Regards,Craig Van HorneTo unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail tomailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeTo unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail tomailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeTo unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail tomailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeFrom: Pete Smith <pete@realisestudio.com>Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] ghetto FlareDate: 12 February 2013 06:42:07 GMTTo: discuss@studiosysadmins.comReply-To: discuss@studiosysadmins.comPrice of 690 and 4000 are similar. I'm thinking this is not the component to cheap out on.
Thanks for your help guys.
On 11 Feb 2013 23:11, "Dan Young" <vfx.it.london@gmail.com> wrote:You cheap bastards - I've never seen it done. Would seriously recommend quadro board.
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 11, 2013, at 8:39, Chris Hyman <chris@cyberdyne-services.com> wrote:
> Suspect yes as people have installed it on laptops before.
>
> If it will work correctly is a different question as the GeForce drivers may not have the calls which are available on Quadro/FX cards, but this is flare not flame so not too sure if the same calls will be made.
>
>
> Chris
> On 11 Feb 2013, at 13:21, Pete Smith wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> We're building a ghetto Flare box. Internal RAID, 1GbE instead of 10GbE etc.
>>
>> Can we get away with a GeForce card over a Quadro?
>>
>> http://www.genarts.com/software/sapphire/autodesk hints that it might
>> be possible ...
>>
>> --
>> Pete Smith
>> DevOp/System Administrator
>> Realise Studio
>> 12/13 Poland Street, London W1F 8QB
>> T. +44 (0)20 7165 9644
>>
>> realisestudio.com
>> To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribe
>
> To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribe
To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeFrom: Don Craig <dmc@arboretumstudios.com>Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] Your preferred Linux Desktop EnvironmentDate: 12 February 2013 07:29:46 GMTTo: Discuss@StudioSysAdmins.comReply-To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com
Always a sucker for Yet Another Window Manager, at Jimmy's suggestion I tried cinnamon - which wmctrl -m reports as Mutter. While offering less impairments than Compiz, it still doesn't play video properly in either 2D or 3D versions. The 3D version has tearing of video in a window, and the 2D version every so often fails to deliver large amounts of a frame. This is possibly an interaction with mplayer, but that's what I'm using, and the problem does not arise with metacity 2D. Anyway, thanks for the suggestion, but I'd better get back to actual work.
Don CraigFrom: Jimmy Christensen <lithorus@gmail.com>Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] Your preferred Linux Desktop EnvironmentDate: 12 February 2013 13:15:19 GMTTo: discuss@studiosysadmins.comReply-To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com
Just curious, is it plain mplayer or something like smplayer? Which video output module are you using?On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Don Craig <dmc@arboretumstudios.com> wrote:Always a sucker for Yet Another Window Manager, at Jimmy's suggestion I tried cinnamon - which wmctrl -m reports as Mutter. While offering less impairments than Compiz, it still doesn't play video properly in either 2D or 3D versions. The 3D version has tearing of video in a window, and the 2D version every so often fails to deliver large amounts of a frame. This is possibly an interaction with mplayer, but that's what I'm using, and the problem does not arise with metacity 2D. Anyway, thanks for the suggestion, but I'd better get back to actual work.
Don Craig
To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeFrom: John Hickson <John.Hickson@arcproductions.com>Subject: [SSA-Discuss] StudioSysAdmins Meeting - Toronto (2013-02-21)Date: 12 February 2013 14:13:43 GMTTo: "discuss@studiosysadmins.com" <discuss@studiosysadmins.com>Reply-To: discuss@studiosysadmins.comFor all people that will be in Toronto next Thursday evening…
-john
Feed: StudioSysAdmins Events
Posted on: Thursday, February 07, 2013 9:56 AM
Author: StudioSysAdmins Events
Subject: StudioSysAdmins Toronto (2013-02-21)
Time/Place:
When & Where:
Thursday February 21st, 2013
6:00PM to 9:00PM
Location:
Arc Productions
230 Richmond Street East
Parking:
Street parking is available.
Other:
Pizza and drinks provided during meeting!
Then to the pub aftwards for drinks.
Agenda:
6:00PM
People can mingle - pizza & drinks
6:30PM
Welcome and Quick Introductions
6:40PM
Presentation by Avere Systems
7:30PM
Presentation by Scalar Decisions
8:10PM
Q&A + Group Discussion
8:30PM
StudioSysAdmins Update
9:00PM
Pub for Beer.
Topics:
“The Avere FXT Edge filer: Cut Costs and Improve Performance for Rendering & Transcoding”
presented by: Aaron Wetherold - Senior System Engineer @ Avere SystemsAvere will be talking about it's latest 3.0 product release and explain the different use cases on how other studios are using Avere. Most recently, Avere helped Image Engine, a VFX company, complete the visual effects for Zero Dark Thirty (Read the Press Release).
About Avere Systems:
Avere Systems brings to market NAS optimization products that scale performance and capacity separately and take advantage of new storage media using dynamic tiering. Avere’s appliances allow organizations to achieve unlimited performance scaling, free applications from the confines of the data center by eliminating latency, and cut storage costs by more than 50%.
“Scalar RenderCloud Toronto - Update”
presented by: John Morch - Account Manager @ Scalar DecisionsReview the status of RenderCloud Toronto and the RenderCloud Toronto Network update. Looking to confirm key members of the Toronto Studio Group (TSG)
About Scalar Decisions:
Scalar is the Canadian leader in delivering innovative IT solutions focused on the data centre. Our practice focus is around virtualization & cloud, data management, networks and security. Our deliverables are built upon designing world class systems for our clients, deployment through services, validation of those designs and finally the ongoing monitoring and management of those systems.From: Dan Young <vfx.it.london@gmail.com>Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] ghetto FlareDate: 12 February 2013 14:27:43 GMTTo: "discuss@studiosysadmins.com" <discuss@studiosysadmins.com>Cc: "discuss@studiosysadmins.com" <discuss@studiosysadmins.com>Reply-To: discuss@studiosysadmins.comGood call.
Sent from my iPhonePrice of 690 and 4000 are similar. I'm thinking this is not the component to cheap out on.
Thanks for your help guys.
On 11 Feb 2013 23:11, "Dan Young" <vfx.it.london@gmail.com> wrote:You cheap bastards - I've never seen it done. Would seriously recommend quadro board.
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 11, 2013, at 8:39, Chris Hyman <chris@cyberdyne-services.com> wrote:
> Suspect yes as people have installed it on laptops before.
>
> If it will work correctly is a different question as the GeForce drivers may not have the calls which are available on Quadro/FX cards, but this is flare not flame so not too sure if the same calls will be made.
>
>
> Chris
> On 11 Feb 2013, at 13:21, Pete Smith wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> We're building a ghetto Flare box. Internal RAID, 1GbE instead of 10GbE etc.
>>
>> Can we get away with a GeForce card over a Quadro?
>>
>> http://www.genarts.com/software/sapphire/autodesk hints that it might
>> be possible ...
>>
>> --
>> Pete Smith
>> DevOp/System Administrator
>> Realise Studio
>> 12/13 Poland Street, London W1F 8QB
>> T. +44 (0)20 7165 9644
>>
>> realisestudio.com
>> To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribe
>
> To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribe
To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeTo unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeFrom: Don Craig <dmc@arboretumstudios.com>Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] Your preferred Linux Desktop EnvironmentDate: 12 February 2013 15:30:11 GMTTo: Discuss@StudioSysAdmins.comReply-To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com
Let me entertain you:
mplayer -v
MPlayer svn r34540 (Ubuntu), built with gcc-4.7 (C) 2000-2012 MPlayer Team
CPU vendor name: GenuineIntel max cpuid level: 13
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3930K CPU @ 3.20GHz (Family: 6, Model: 45, Stepping: 7)
extended cpuid-level: 8
extended cache-info: 16801856
Detected cache-line size is 64 bytes
CPUflags: MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 0 3DNowExt: 0 SSE: 1 SSE2: 1 SSSE3: 1
Compiled with runtime CPU detection.
get_path('codecs.conf') -> '/home/dmc/.mplayer/codecs.conf'
Reading optional codecs config file /home/dmc/.mplayer/codecs.conf: No such file or directory
Reading optional codecs config file /etc/mplayer/codecs.conf: No such file or directory
Using built-in default codecs.conf.
init_freetype
Using MMX (with tiny bit MMX2) Optimized OnScreenDisplay
get_path('fonts') -> '/home/dmc/.mplayer/fonts'
Usage: mplayer [options] [url|path/]filename
No audio, content is 1920 x 1080p -demuxer y4m 4:2:0 -fps 60 -vo vdpau,
playback is from a 6 gbit / sec SATA Samsung 512 GB 840 Pro SSD.
The above is the current ubuntu 12.10 version of mplayer - I've also tried
building it myself which is not for the faint of heart and ends up with less
codecs. I've tried using the smplayer front end which makes no
difference (you'd expect that to only make things worse).
The nvidia driver is 313.09 (beta) (310.19 acts the same), and the X server
version number is 11.0 and the vendor version is 1.13.0. OpenGL sync
to VBlank and Allow Flipping are enabled. Cards are Qty. 3 GTX 690s with 1536 cuda
cores, 2GB memory, and a VBIOS version of 80.04.1e.00.14, interfaced via
PCI Express v3.0 16 lanes x 1 and 8 lanes x 2. Power supply is 1600 Watts (ho ho).
I've also tried fullscreen playback instead of windowed, and assorted
window managers. The only thing that worked was Metacity 2D (the
3D has tearing in the window). For this application (high frame rate)
I'm serious about the 60 fps. When it's working it looks like it has enough
headroom to get to about 80 fps. It's quite possible that something like
Tweak Software's RV would not have the same interactions that
mplayer does, but so far I've not spent the $300 to find out.
Anyway, my "in the weeds" detector has gone off, and I fear we have
wandered from the topic. My takeaway would be that there are many, many
different available window managers, building from source is to be avoided
for complexity reasons, and most of them value their own usage of system
resources over that of the applications. Window manager selection debates
appear to be highly theological in nature - cinnamon (Mutter) is Lutheranism
to Gnome 2.0's (Metacity) atheism, and heaven forbid Gnome 3.0's (compiz)
Catholicism. (I trust that last insulted somebody ;^])
cheers,
Don CraigFrom: Cal Sawyer <cal-s@blue-bolt.com>Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] dense storage footprintDate: 12 February 2013 15:37:15 GMTTo: discuss@studiosysadmins.comReply-To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com
Slashdot sayeth:
"Specifically, the rack is 600 mm wide (versus the 482.6 mm of a 19-inch
rack), with the chassis guidelines calling for a width of 537 mm. All
told, that’s slightly wider than the 580 mm used by the Western Electric
or ETSI rack."
So, not 19" (ok) and not 23"WE/580mm ETSI (uh .. ok). It's something
else entirely. How "Open" is that? :)
- cal sawyer
On 11/02/13 22:47, Saker Klippsten wrote:Very similar to the open compute platform storage hardware. 30 Drivesin 2U but the OC racks are not standard 19" which is how they get 30in 2u.http://www.opencompute.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Open_Compute_Project_Open_Vault_Storage_Specification_v0.7.pdfFrom: Saker Klippsten <sakerk@gmail.com>Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] dense storage footprintDate: 12 February 2013 15:45:16 GMTTo: "discuss@studiosysadmins.com" <discuss@studiosysadmins.com>Cc: "discuss@studiosysadmins.com" <discuss@studiosysadmins.com>Reply-To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com
It's Wide Open
: )
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On Feb 12, 2013, at 7:37 AM, Cal Sawyer <cal-s@blue-bolt.com> wrote:Slashdot sayeth:"Specifically, the rack is 600 mm wide (versus the 482.6 mm of a 19-inchrack), with the chassis guidelines calling for a width of 537 mm. Alltold, that’s slightly wider than the 580 mm used by the Western Electricor ETSI rack."So, not 19" (ok) and not 23"WE/580mm ETSI (uh .. ok). It's somethingelse entirely. How "Open" is that? :)- cal sawyerOn 11/02/13 22:47, Saker Klippsten wrote:Very similar to the open compute platform storage hardware. 30 Drivesin 2U but the OC racks are not standard 19" which is how they get 30in 2u.http://www.opencompute.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Open_Compute_Project_Open_Vault_Storage_Specification_v0.7.pdfTo unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribeFrom: Shane McEwan <shane@mcewan.id.au>Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] Your preferred Linux Desktop EnvironmentDate: 12 February 2013 15:56:26 GMTTo: studiosysadmins-discuss@studiosysadmins.comReply-To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com
On 12/02/13 15:30, Don Craig wrote:Anyway, my "in the weeds" detector has gone off, and I fear we havewandered from the topic. My takeaway would be that there are many, manydifferent available window managers, building from source is to be avoidedfor complexity reasons, and most of them value their own usage of systemresources over that of the applications. Window manager selection debatesappear to be highly theological in nature - cinnamon (Mutter) isLutheranismto Gnome 2.0's (Metacity) atheism, and heaven forbid Gnome 3.0's (compiz)Catholicism. (I trust that last insulted somebody ;^])
Did you try turning off compositing in the compositing window managers? You lose your bells and whistles but I have a feeling that as soon as you ask your window manager to take bitmaps of your various windows so it can make them transparent or have glowy borders you're gonna lose performance.
Shane.
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?Did you try turning off compositing in the compositing window managers? You lose your bells and whistles but I have a feeling that as soon as you ask your window manager to take bitmaps of your various windows so it can make them transparent or have glowy borders you're gonna lose performance. Shane.
No - although (quickly googling to become an instant expert in this area) since Mutter (doesn't work smoothly) is supposed to be Metacity (window manager and does work smoothly) plus Clutter (compositing) it seems reasonable to assume that Clutter/compositing is the problem. Obviously many uses of window managers don't really care about accurate frame rates, but some do. Googling shows a 2010 patch to remove the ability to turn off compositing in Mutter on the grounds that if you wanted that you would run Metacity.
cheers,
Don Craig
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Date:?Tue, 12 Feb 2013 08:45:08 -0800
Subject:?Re: [SSA-Discuss] Deploying your Adobe Cloud Team Installs
A good starting point would be a 'recommended practices' type of
document that sysadmins could somewhat agree on, and then float that
to the vendors.
I have such a document myself on recommended practices for
command line tools. It's surprisingly long, but goes into
details I've seen software vendors go wrong on:
http://seriss.com/people/erco/tmp/good-command-line-renderer-practices.txt
TLDR, hitting items like:
? ? ? ? o Executable's filenames should not contain spaces (!)
? ? ? ? o Return proper exit codes; 0=success, >0=fail
? ? ? ? o When you can't open a file, print the pathname /and/ OS error (not just "can't open file")
? ? ? ? o Avoid negative exit codes
? ? ? ? o ..etc..
I could see sysadmins doing something similar.. things like:
? ? ? ? o Scriptable software installation
? ? ? ? o Instructions for installing on a network drive
? ? ? ? o How user preferences should work and where they should be saved (win/mac/linux)
? ? ? ? o etc..
Then see if you can get general agreement from a bunch of admins,
and use voting to resolve disagreements. google docs is a good way
to manage such a document; this way many folks can edit at once,
and one person can 'manage' the document.
On 02/11/13 16:31, Jean-Francois Panisset wrote:
> I dream of systems folks from various facilities coming together to
> create a standard spec that says "this is how you shall structure the
> systems component of your app (licensing, filesystem layout,
> preferences...)" and hold a firm "we won't buy your app if you don't
> adhere to this spec" line.
>
> Won't happen of course, and I guess this is a pretty boring dream to have...
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Date:?Tue, 12 Feb 2013 16:50:56 +0000
Subject:?Re: [SSA-Discuss] dense storage footprint
Bit late throwing in here, but you can but an IBM DS3700 in 4U in a standard rack. ?60 drives in 5 drawers of 12.
http://www-31.ibm.com/support/techdocs/cn/faqhtmlfaq/images/2611202E08003-2.gif
It's also marketed by Dell and NetApp (I believe NetApp actually build it but not sure).
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From: studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com [studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com] on behalf of Cal Sawyer [cal-s@blue-bolt.com]
Sent: 12 February 2013 15:37
To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com
Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] dense storage footprint
Slashdot sayeth:
"Specifically, the rack is 600 mm wide (versus the 482.6 mm of a 19-inch
rack), with the chassis guidelines calling for a width of 537 mm. All
told, that?s slightly wider than the 580 mm used by the Western Electric
or ETSI rack."
So, not 19" (ok) and not 23"WE/580mm ETSI (uh .. ok). ?It's something
else entirely. ?How "Open" is that? :)
- cal sawyer
On 11/02/13 22:47, Saker Klippsten wrote:
> Very similar to the open compute platform storage hardware. 30 Drives
> in 2U but the OC racks are not standard 19" which is how they get 30
> in 2u.
>
> http://www.opencompute.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Open_Compute_Project_Open_Vault_Storage_Specification_v0.7.pdf
>
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Date:?Tue, 12 Feb 2013 12:03:18 -0500
Subject:?Re: [SSA-Discuss] dense storage footprintIBM re-brands NetApp gear,?? or they use to,? I think that deal is done now... ?? Wasn't aware Dell did,? and can't understand why as they have their own kit,? including Compellent gear which they acquired a while back.-gOn Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Stephen Willey <Stephen.Willey@primefocusworld.com> wrote:Bit late throwing in here, but you can but an IBM DS3700 in 4U in a standard rack. ?60 drives in 5 drawers of 12.
http://www-31.ibm.com/support/techdocs/cn/faqhtmlfaq/images/2611202E08003-2.gif
It's also marketed by Dell and NetApp (I believe NetApp actually build it but not sure).
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From: studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com [studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com] on behalf of Cal Sawyer [cal-s@blue-bolt.com]
Sent: 12 February 2013 15:37
To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com
Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] dense storage footprint
Slashdot sayeth:
"Specifically, the rack is 600 mm wide (versus the 482.6 mm of a 19-inch
rack), with the chassis guidelines calling for a width of 537 mm. All
told, that?s slightly wider than the 580 mm used by the Western Electric
or ETSI rack."
So, not 19" (ok) and not 23"WE/580mm ETSI (uh .. ok). ?It's something
else entirely. ?How "Open" is that? :)
- cal sawyer
On 11/02/13 22:47, Saker Klippsten wrote:
> Very similar to the open compute platform storage hardware. 30 Drives
> in 2U but the OC racks are not standard 19" which is how they get 30
> in 2u.
>
> http://www.opencompute.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Open_Compute_Project_Open_Vault_Storage_Specification_v0.7.pdf
>
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