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  • 09/20/13--06:55: Shotgun Pipeline Toolkit
  • By Louai Abu-Osba -

    Hey Chaps,

    Anyone out there using?Shotgun Pipeline Toolkit yet? I'm curious how the asset management features are working out for you. Thanks!

    -louai

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    By William Shortell - Hello Los Angeles Sys Admins,

        Thought you might be interested in this meeting.  Here's the link.  http://www.gnomonschool.com/?p=2832#more-2832

        You can register at http://rfx.com/events/96

        There will be free beer!

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    By Brian Krusic -

    Thanks William.

    Did you say free beer?  Well then, I look forward to Milwaukee's Best.

    "Bat dung"

    - Brian

    On Sep 23, 2013, at 6:24 PM, William Shortell <bill@illuvatar.com> wrote:

    Hello Los Angeles Sys Admins,

        Thought you might be interested in this meeting.  Here's the link.  http://www.gnomonschool.com/?p=2832#more-2832

        You can register at http://rfx.com/events/96

        There will be free beer!
    --
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    CEO
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    Email: bill@illuvatar.com
    Cell (310) 753-1774

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  • 09/24/13--05:40: Autodesk Rental models.
  • By Andreas Martin Aanerud -

    Does anyone know about the Autodesk Rental models,?
    and if they will include Flame / Smoke ?


    Best
    Andreas
    --
    _____________________________
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    Cell: + 47 90978137
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    By William Sandler -

    Hey gang, was curious if anybody knew of a reputable render farm rental service. ?We will possibly need to scale up our render capacity to reach a deadline within the next week or so. ?I don't think cloud rendering will work for us because the files are so huge and our area has no fast ISPs.

    Do the rentals usually come with Windows? 3DSMax? Fusion??

    Thanks,

    -Will

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  • 09/24/13--08:10: Autodesk Remote
  • By Saker Klippsten -

    Guessing some sort of Citrix, goto meeting.


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  • 09/24/13--11:05: Avoid Intel SAS HBAs
  • By Brian Krusic - Hi,


    Just some advice, do not go Intel HBAs but rather go to the source, in this case LSI.

    Intel is way to rigid and there support regarding HBAs suck.

    You have been warned.


    - Brian

    ~ Chef Burger ~






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    By Klaus Steden - I stumbled on this today when I was trying to figure out how to connect to the live stream of a proprietary IPTV camera without having to use their obnoxious Windows-only UI, and thought I'd pay it forward. If you find yourself needing that kind of info for whatever reason: http://www.ispyconnect.com/sources.aspx It's pretty comprehensive, to say the least. cheers, Klaus To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribe

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    By Brian Krusic - Just as a follow up, I was able to solve my Intel HBA issues on my own.


    And I was reminded how problems used to get fixed before having Google or even the intranet available to me.

    But first, I have sadly accepted the fact that all vendors treat us or at least me, as a liability with the exception of small non global companies.  Meaning those with under 500 employees.

    And as such have no real interest in getting down and dirty with some old fashioned engineering to solve a problem.

    And before some of you who claiming to be biz gurus spew "yes but you have to understand it from there view, they gotta make money..."

    Well, how about helping some one through there problem?

    My issue is superfluous, my point is about really caring enough to fix an issue.

    - Brian

    SoCals #1 Sandpaper Superstore. More Grit For Less Green.

    On Sep 24, 2013, at 3:43 PM, Jean-Francois Panisset wrote:

    These guys?


    They look suspiciously like a SuperMicro / Chenbro chassis where you forgot to install a motherboard :-)

    At $908 for the single PSU 12 x 3.5" version from Provantage ($1200 for the dual PSU 24 x 2.5") pricing is quite interesting:


    For possibly superstitious reasons, I've never been a big fan of integrated CPU + storage chassis NAS configurations: having a separate 1U server linked to a storage enclosure with SAS cables as always made me feel safer. Maybe I just don't like the visuals of a forest of red "licorice" SATA cables inside your typical 2U / 3U integrated server enclosure? (I know there are better cabling solutions, but I've seen too many of those).

    JF




    On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Brian Krusic <brian@krusic.com> wrote:
    No worries.  The firmware update procedures on the JBODs are rather easy and straight forward, well engineered product.  No hoops to jump through etc...  And monitoring via SES command suite is doable.

    Fortunately not a lot can go wrong as if it does, you'll either get Gilgamesh or Ricky Ricardo so good luck with that one.

    Email is prolly the best correspondence regarding tech issues.
     

    - Brian

    SoCals #1 Sandpaper Superstore. More Grit For Less Green.

    On Sep 24, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Jimmy Christensen wrote:

    Thanks for the heads up

    - Jimmy

    On 24 Sep 2013 21:40, "Brian Krusic" <brian@krusic.com> wrote:
    They seem good, I'm running 6 of em.

    - Brian

    "Bat dung"

    On Sep 24, 2013, at 12:37 PM, Jimmy Christensen <lithorus@gmail.com> wrote:

    How about their JBODs?

    - Jimmy

    On 24 Sep 2013 20:01, "Brian Krusic" <brian@krusic.com> wrote:
    Hi,

    Just some advice, do not go Intel HBAs but rather go to the source, in this case LSI.

    Intel is way to rigid and there support regarding HBAs suck.

    You have been warned.


    - Brian

    ~ Chef Burger ~






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    MegaPath - Avoid at all costs
    posted by Brian Krusic on July 30, 2012, 8:05 p.m. (1 year, 3 months, 18 days ago)
    nslookup;

    megapath.com
    megapathsux.com

    Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
    MegaPath Corporationdnstech@megapath.com
    6800 Koll Center Parkway, Suite 200
    Pleasanton, CA 94566
    US

    Guess they already know.

    Anyways, its been a calamity of attempts to fix an issue so give em a wide berth.

    The service was much better under SpeakEasy.  Aren't acquisitions and mergers great?

    If you do enlist there services, I would recommend the ingest of quaaludes when dealing with support.
     
    - Brian

    "Janitorial Services"
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    nslookup;

    megapath.com
    megapathsux.com

    Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
    MegaPath Corporationdnstech@megapath.com
    6800 Koll Center Parkway, Suite 200
    Pleasanton, CA 94566
    US

    Guess they already know.

    Anyways, its been a calamity of attempts to fix an issue so give em a wide berth.

    The service was much better under SpeakEasy.  Aren't acquisitions and mergers great?

    If you do enlist there services, I would recommend the ingest of quaaludes when dealing with support.
     
    - Brian

    "Janitorial Services"

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  • 07/30/12--20:10: Symlinks on Mac OS
  • Symlinks on Mac OS
    posted by Dylan Penhale on July 30, 2012, 11:10 p.m. (1 year, 3 months, 18 days ago)
    Calling all Mac wizards.

    We use symlinks as part of our POSIX filesystem and often find that Mac OS machines will report the physical path to applications rather than our preferred logical path. Typically the logical path is reported in the shell, but finder will display the physical path.  This can often cause issues with applications saving files with undesired paths. Our linux machines don't suffer from this, preferring to default to the logical path, which I believe is standard behaviour. 

    I wonder if anyone has found a way to force finder and applications on Mac OS to default to the logical path?

    Much thanks,
    Dylan
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    Calling all Mac wizards.

    We use symlinks as part of our POSIX filesystem and often find that Mac OS machines will report the physical path to applications rather than our preferred logical path. Typically the logical path is reported in the shell, but finder will display the physical path.  This can often cause issues with applications saving files with undesired paths. Our linux machines don't suffer from this, preferring to default to the logical path, which I believe is standard behaviour. 

    I wonder if anyone has found a way to force finder and applications on Mac OS to default to the logical path?

    Much thanks,
    Dylan

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  • 07/31/12--11:20: BlueArc/HDS TAC - kudos
  • BlueArc/HDS TAC - kudos
    posted by Brian Krusic on July 31, 2012, 2:20 p.m. (1 year, 3 months, 17 days ago)
    Hi,

    While I slam when slammage is due, I also enjoy giving credit.

    TAC has been diligently helping us with an odd issue lately and they have also not been persistent about closing tickets.


    - Brian

    "Janitorial Services"

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    Hi,

    While I slam when slammage is due, I also enjoy giving credit.

    TAC has been diligently helping us with an odd issue lately and they have also not been persistent about closing tickets.


    - Brian

    "Janitorial Services"


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  • 07/31/12--11:30: Alacritech - Serious kudos
  • Alacritech - Serious kudos
    posted by Brian Krusic on July 31, 2012, 2:30 p.m. (1 year, 3 months, 17 days ago)
    Hi,

    Wow, I mean wow.

    These guys really tend to our issues ASAP.  I feel as though the entire companies resources are at our disposal.

    Currently evaling a unit sitting in front of a $15K SATA Raid 10 array@20TB usable (about 72TB raw).  Can't really afford a serious NAS from BA, NetApp, Isilon etc...


    - Brian

    "Janitorial Services"

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    Hi,

    Wow, I mean wow.

    These guys really tend to our issues ASAP.  I feel as though the entire companies resources are at our disposal.

    Currently evaling a unit sitting in front of a $15K SATA Raid 10 array@20TB usable (about 72TB raw).  Can't really afford a serious NAS from BA, NetApp, Isilon etc...


    - Brian

    "Janitorial Services"


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  • 07/31/12--12:15: homebrew filessystems
  • homebrew filessystems
    posted by Michael Oliver on July 31, 2012, 3:15 p.m. (1 year, 3 months, 17 days ago)
    I have been playing around with different filesystems to run big supermicro arrays that we are using as tier2 storage to keep recently archived projects online as they are usually the ones that need to be accessed as soon as they are removed from our Isilon. ?We also use it to mirror/snapshot current shows so if the isilon goes down we can do a dns switch and keep on chugging. ?

    I know there are some others out there testing front end caching systems (ie Avere, cacheiq, etc..) with cheap storage on the backend but I want to take it a step further and get that ssd cache on the cheap. ?I know zfs has?L2ARC and I am looking forward to playing around with it. ?

    Has anyone played with using bcache ( http://bcache.evilpiepirate.org ) as a frontend to a xfs filesystem? ?I know there was mention of using it with a gluster node a month or so ago but that's the only mention I could find from SSA.

    I'm in the information gathering / digging phase so I welcome any links, personal experiences, and references anyone can provide.

    --
    Michael Oliver
    mcoliver@gmail.com
    858.336.1438
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    I have been playing around with different filesystems to run big supermicro arrays that we are using as tier2 storage to keep recently archived projects online as they are usually the ones that need to be accessed as soon as they are removed from our Isilon. ?We also use it to mirror/snapshot current shows so if the isilon goes down we can do a dns switch and keep on chugging. ?

    I know there are some others out there testing front end caching systems (ie Avere, cacheiq, etc..) with cheap storage on the backend but I want to take it a step further and get that ssd cache on the cheap. ?I know zfs has?L2ARC and I am looking forward to playing around with it. ?

    Has anyone played with using bcache ( http://bcache.evilpiepirate.org ) as a frontend to a xfs filesystem? ?I know there was mention of using it with a gluster node a month or so ago but that's the only mention I could find from SSA.

    I'm in the information gathering / digging phase so I welcome any links, personal experiences, and references anyone can provide.

    --
    Michael Oliver
    mcoliver@gmail.com
    858.336.1438

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  • 07/31/12--14:40: MXF Metadata
  • MXF Metadata
    posted by Jason Fotter on July 31, 2012, 5:40 p.m. (1 year, 3 months, 17 days ago)
    Does anyone know how to view/modify MXF data. I have some files that are crashing our Scratch System and I'm pretty sure it has do with some bad metadata but I don't know of any tools to modify the data. Jason Fotter jason@fusefx.com To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribe
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    Does anyone know how to view/modify MXF data. I have some files that are crashing our Scratch System and I'm pretty sure it has do with some bad metadata but I don't know of any tools to modify the data. Jason Fotter jason@fusefx.com To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribe

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  • 07/31/12--14:45: SnapZ Pro X alternatives
  • SnapZ Pro X alternatives
    posted by Brian Krusic on July 31, 2012, 5:45 p.m. (1 year, 3 months, 17 days ago)
    Hi,

    Ok, getting tired of having to buy this software over and over again just to capture embedded Flash vids.

    Does nay one have a free alternative to something like SnapZ Pro X?

    Many many thanks in advance,

    - Brian

    "Janitorial Services"

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    Hi,

    Ok, getting tired of having to buy this software over and over again just to capture embedded Flash vids.

    Does nay one have a free alternative to something like SnapZ Pro X?

    Many many thanks in advance,

    - Brian

    "Janitorial Services"


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  • 08/01/12--02:10: deadline server
  • deadline server
    posted by Pete Forde on Aug. 1, 2012, 5:10 a.m. (1 year, 3 months, 16 days ago)
    I have a client eho wants to use deadline on their 2 render nodes, if the server is installed on render node01 can it still be used as a slave

    Pete

    On 1 August 2012 02:57, mathieu xavier <matxdotca@gmail.com> wrote:
    Have you tried the free Screen Recording in OS X (part of QuickTime Player)?

    -x

    On 2012-07-31, at 2:43 PM, Brian Krusic <brian@krusic.com> wrote:

    Hi,

    Ok, getting tired of having to buy this software over and over again just to capture embedded Flash vids.

    Does nay one have a free alternative to something like SnapZ Pro X?

    Many many thanks in advance,

    - Brian

    "Janitorial Services"

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    --

    Pete







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    I have a client eho wants to use deadline on their 2 render nodes, if the server is installed on render node01 can it still be used as a slave

    Pete

    On 1 August 2012 02:57, mathieu xavier <matxdotca@gmail.com> wrote:
    Have you tried the free Screen Recording in OS X (part of QuickTime Player)?

    -x

    On 2012-07-31, at 2:43 PM, Brian Krusic <brian@krusic.com> wrote:

    Hi,

    Ok, getting tired of having to buy this software over and over again just to capture embedded Flash vids.

    Does nay one have a free alternative to something like SnapZ Pro X?

    Many many thanks in advance,

    - Brian

    "Janitorial Services"

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    Pete








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  • 08/01/12--08:20: Copying files from text file
  • Copying files from text file
    posted by Saham Ali on Aug. 1, 2012, 11:20 a.m. (1 year, 3 months, 16 days ago)
    Hey guys
    Quick refresher, I know its possible using command redirection in windows, but how do I copy a list of files contained in a text file via command line?

    I need to grab every nth file from a folder and move it into another folder, or delete the file, but I rather move for now.

    I am attempting xcopy?
    xcopy /e < c: emp emp.txt c:*

    where temp.txt contains a list of full path names to files.

    and it?doesn't?seem to work
    seeing things on the web to use %a or %%a... What is that?

    Any help would be?appreciated, or a better way to do this is also welcome.

    --
    ? ? ? ?? ,|//,
    ? ? ? ? ( o - )
    -oOO--(_)--Ooo-----------------
    Saham Ali
    Founder/Systems Engineer
    DvNT Technologies
    saham@dvnttechnologies.com
    407.729.3584 - Direct

    ? .ooO
    ? (? ? )? ?? Ooo.
    --? ( ------(? ? )-------------------
    ? ? \_)? ? ?? )? /
    ? ? ? ? ? ? ? (_/

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    Hey guys
    Quick refresher, I know its possible using command redirection in windows, but how do I copy a list of files contained in a text file via command line?

    I need to grab every nth file from a folder and move it into another folder, or delete the file, but I rather move for now.

    I am attempting xcopy?
    xcopy /e < c: emp emp.txt c:*

    where temp.txt contains a list of full path names to files.

    and it?doesn't?seem to work
    seeing things on the web to use %a or %%a... What is that?

    Any help would be?appreciated, or a better way to do this is also welcome.

    --
    ? ? ? ?? ,|//,
    ? ? ? ? ( o - )
    -oOO--(_)--Ooo-----------------
    Saham Ali
    Founder/Systems Engineer
    DvNT Technologies
    saham@dvnttechnologies.com
    407.729.3584 - Direct

    ? .ooO
    ? (? ? )? ?? Ooo.
    --? ( ------(? ? )-------------------
    ? ? \_)? ? ?? )? /
    ? ? ? ? ? ? ? (_/


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    Watchguard Appliance Experience
    posted by Jordan Soles on Aug. 1, 2012, 11:30 a.m. (1 year, 3 months, 16 days ago)
    Hi Everyone,

    I'm wondering what your collective experience has been using an appliance like Watchguard to manage proxy/vpn/firewall on a mixed linux/windows/mac network?

    We are currently using a combination of squid/shorewall/openvpn to handle this now, but these dedicated appliances appear to have some advantages that we can't seem to overcome with open source solutions (proxy'ing https traffic for one).

    Thanks,
    Jordan

    --
    JORDAN SOLES
    Office:?? ??514 397 9999 ?x 400
    Cell:?? ? ??514 699 0414
    Skype:????jordansoles

    [RODEO FX]
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    Hi Everyone,

    I'm wondering what your collective experience has been using an appliance like Watchguard to manage proxy/vpn/firewall on a mixed linux/windows/mac network?

    We are currently using a combination of squid/shorewall/openvpn to handle this now, but these dedicated appliances appear to have some advantages that we can't seem to overcome with open source solutions (proxy'ing https traffic for one).

    Thanks,
    Jordan

    --
    JORDAN SOLES
    Office:?? ??514 397 9999 ?x 400
    Cell:?? ? ??514 699 0414
    Skype:????jordansoles

    [RODEO FX]

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  • 08/01/12--09:15: John spreads virus!
  • John spreads virus!
    posted by Greg Whynott on Aug. 1, 2012, 12:15 p.m. (1 year, 3 months, 16 days ago)

    *GASP!* EVIL JOHN STRIKES AGAIN!

    8)

    our mail system blocked the digest... false positive i'm sure...


    -g






    A virus was found: MBL_284029.UNOFFICIAL

    Scanner detecting a virus: ClamAV-clamd

    Content type: Virus

    Internal reference code for the message is 19923-20/snX168WaWUK1


    First upstream SMTP client IP address: [216.234.60.233] mail.gargoylelogic.com According to a 'Received:' trace, the message apparently originated at:

    [216.234.60.233], master.sysadmins-online.com localhost [127.0.0.1]

    Return-Path: <studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com>

    From: studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com

    Sender: studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com

    Message-ID:

    <mailman.709.1343836483.3185.studiosysadmins-discuss@studiosysadmins.com>

    Subject: StudioSysAdmins-Discuss Digest, Vol 35, Issue 1 The message has been quarantined as:xxxx

    Notification to sender will not be mailed.

    The message WAS NOT relayed to:

    xxxx

    250 2.7.0 Ok, discarded, id=19923-20 - INFECTED: MBL_284029.UNOFFICIAL

    Virus scanner output:

    p057: MBL_284029.UNOFFICIAL FOUND

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    *GASP!* EVIL JOHN STRIKES AGAIN!

    8)

    our mail system blocked the digest... false positive i'm sure...


    -g






    A virus was found: MBL_284029.UNOFFICIAL

    Scanner detecting a virus: ClamAV-clamd

    Content type: Virus

    Internal reference code for the message is 19923-20/snX168WaWUK1


    First upstream SMTP client IP address: [216.234.60.233] mail.gargoylelogic.com According to a 'Received:' trace, the message apparently originated at:

    [216.234.60.233], master.sysadmins-online.com localhost [127.0.0.1]

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