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  • 04/22/14--10:40: NetApp
  • NetApp
    posted by Greg Whynott on April 22, 2014, 1:40 p.m. (1 day ago)
    do they still have the 100TB folder limitation? better than the 9tb limitation from a few years back..




    lots of storage vendor questions today...



    wouldnt that be nice to have EMC NA HDS Nexenta and whoever else in for a common SSA meeting?

    what a specital that may turn into.. specially after a few beers!
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    do they still have the 100TB folder limitation? better than the 9tb limitation from a few years back..




    lots of storage vendor questions today...



    wouldnt that be nice to have EMC NA HDS Nexenta and whoever else in for a common SSA meeting?

    what a specital that may turn into.. specially after a few beers!

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  • 04/22/14--12:00: Isilon x200 500GB drives
  • Isilon x200 500GB drives
    posted by Ian Haskin on April 22, 2014, 3 p.m. (1 day ago)
    Hitachi HUA722050CLA330 FW:JP2OA3MA <- this is what I want to match

    Anyone have some they don't want any more? Ones that work that is? ;D

    Message me off-list if so.

    --


    IAN HASKIN

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    Hitachi HUA722050CLA330 FW:JP2OA3MA <- this is what I want to match

    Anyone have some they don't want any more? Ones that work that is? ;D

    Message me off-list if so.

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    IAN HASKIN

    sr. systems-admin


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    On the fly "isi smb" commands
    posted by Ian Haskin on April 22, 2014, 4:40 p.m. (1 day ago)
    Can anyone comment on access disruptions when running "isi smb" commands?

    I want to set "isi smb settings shares modify --change-notify norecurse", but I don't want to disrupt any active SMB connections.

    I'm _hoping_ this will help with Finder refresh issues and SMB mounts. Not holding my breath.


    TIA

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    IAN HASKIN

    sr. systems-admin

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    Can anyone comment on access disruptions when running "isi smb" commands?

    I want to set "isi smb settings shares modify --change-notify norecurse", but I don't want to disrupt any active SMB connections.

    I'm _hoping_ this will help with Finder refresh issues and SMB mounts. Not holding my breath.


    TIA

    --


    IAN HASKIN

    sr. systems-admin


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  • 04/23/14--10:25: PAT tester in Soho London?
  • PAT tester in Soho London?
    posted by  on April 23, 2014, 1:25 p.m.
    Hi We need to get some small on-set kit PAT tested - power adapters, battery chargers, etc. Anyone know of someone in central LDN that we can just bring the bits it over to or can attend without travel expense from the hinterlands? thanks! - cal@bluebolt To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribe
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    Hi We need to get some small on-set kit PAT tested - power adapters, battery chargers, etc. Anyone know of someone in central LDN that we can just bring the bits it over to or can attend without travel expense from the hinterlands? thanks! - cal@bluebolt To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribe

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    10Gbit ethernet Fast & Secure NAS
    posted by François Grivel on April 24, 2014, noon (3 days ago)

    Hi everybody,

    Please, I need some advices about our plan to update our NAS to handle 4K.

    We will need at least 100TB on RAID 6. It will be accessed by 6 post-prod workstations equiped with 10Gb NIC & 10+ other workstations with 1Gb NIC.

    We target to get (very) fast SMB transferts but not real-time, that's why I'm talking about fast NAS rather than SAN solution, all important workstations has its own local storage.

    We've found a 36x4TB SAS storage with hardware RAID (ARC-1880). The server will be a supermicro with SAS host and a dual 10GBit NIC teamed.

    We also planned to buy a NetGear ProSafe 10Git switch.

    Still wondering about:

    - The OS to use: Windows server 2012, Open-e, FreeNAS,Nas4free?

    The current NAS is driven by Win2003, it is pretty stable but performance could be better with big images sequences. Does SMB3 on Windows server 2012 could solve this? The storage we find is certified with Open-e but I have still not found any advice on Open-e in a postprod environment...?

    - Does SSD cache worth it? Any OS handle it well?

    Any advice is welcome.

    Bests

    François

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    Hi everybody,

    Please, I need some advices about our plan to update our NAS to handle 4K.

    We will need at least 100TB on RAID 6. It will be accessed by 6 post-prod workstations equiped with 10Gb NIC & 10+ other workstations with 1Gb NIC.

    We target to get (very) fast SMB transferts but not real-time, that's why I'm talking about fast NAS rather than SAN solution, all important workstations has its own local storage.

    We've found a 36x4TB SAS storage with hardware RAID (ARC-1880). The server will be a supermicro with SAS host and a dual 10GBit NIC teamed.

    We also planned to buy a NetGear ProSafe 10Git switch.

    Still wondering about:

    - The OS to use: Windows server 2012, Open-e, FreeNAS,Nas4free?

    The current NAS is driven by Win2003, it is pretty stable but performance could be better with big images sequences. Does SMB3 on Windows server 2012 could solve this? The storage we find is certified with Open-e but I have still not found any advice on Open-e in a postprod environment...?

    - Does SSD cache worth it? Any OS handle it well?

    Any advice is welcome.

    Bests

    François


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    Realtime video overlay solutions
    posted by Todd Smith on April 24, 2014, 2:15 p.m. (3 days ago)
    Hey all,

    I'm looking for an inexpensive solution for realtime video overlaying for an in house project.  I'm pretty new to this field of software.  Anyone have any experience with this stuff and care to share?

    Thanks,

    Todd Smith
    Head of Information Technology

    soho vfx 
    99 Atlantic Ave. Suite 303, Toronto, Ontario M6K 3J8

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    Hey all,

    I'm looking for an inexpensive solution for realtime video overlaying for an in house project.  I'm pretty new to this field of software.  Anyone have any experience with this stuff and care to share?

    Thanks,

    Todd Smith
    Head of Information Technology

    soho vfx 
    99 Atlantic Ave. Suite 303, Toronto, Ontario M6K 3J8


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  • 04/24/14--13:30: Promise Sanlink TB->8Gb
  • Promise Sanlink TB->8Gb
    posted by Rob LaRose on April 24, 2014, 4:30 p.m. (3 days ago)

    Someone else asked, and I don't think I ever saw any affirmative answers..

    has anybody used the Promise TB->8Gb FC unit?  Does it hold up?  Thinking of it for my Smoke-on-iMac (If I get it onto the SAN versus 10GbE)

    --Rob


    rob larose | engineer | rock paper scissors | 212-255-6446 | www.rockpaperscissors.com

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    Our billing and remittance stays the same

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    Someone else asked, and I don't think I ever saw any affirmative answers..

    has anybody used the Promise TB->8Gb FC unit?  Does it hold up?  Thinking of it for my Smoke-on-iMac (If I get it onto the SAN versus 10GbE)

    --Rob


    rob larose | engineer | rock paper scissors | 212-255-6446 | www.rockpaperscissors.com

    **NOTE OUR NEW STREET ADDRESS: 245 Fifth Ave, 23rd Fl, New York, NY 10016.
    Our billing and remittance stays the same


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  • 04/24/14--14:35: OSX Finder refresh?
  • OSX Finder refresh?
    posted by Brian Krusic on April 24, 2014, 5:35 p.m. (3 days ago)
    Hi,

    I vaguely recall some talking about a either a Finder replacement or a Finder refresher type deal.

    Would any one be kind enough to point me in the right direction?

    Was it Finder Refresher?

    If so, any one try it in Mavs?

    I see that indeed the Finder bug is still present in 10.9.2, what an absolute buzz kill.

    - Brian

    SoCals #1 Sandpaper Superstore. More Grit For Less Green.

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    Hi,

    I vaguely recall some talking about a either a Finder replacement or a Finder refresher type deal.

    Would any one be kind enough to point me in the right direction?

    Was it Finder Refresher?

    If so, any one try it in Mavs?

    I see that indeed the Finder bug is still present in 10.9.2, what an absolute buzz kill.

    - Brian

    SoCals #1 Sandpaper Superstore. More Grit For Less Green.


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  • 04/24/14--19:25: Bifrost 2X
  • Bifrost 2X
    posted by Jean-Francois Panisset on April 24, 2014, 10:25 p.m. (3 days ago)
    I know that it is unlikely that someone would confuse fluid sim in Maya with Film Archiving, but still...


    Were the Naiad team from Scandinavia as well?

    JF


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    I know that it is unlikely that someone would confuse fluid sim in Maya with Film Archiving, but still...


    Were the Naiad team from Scandinavia as well?

    JF



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  • 04/25/14--14:00: ZFS training
  • ZFS training
    posted by Brian Krusic on April 25, 2014, 5 p.m. (2 days ago)
    Hi, I think this is cool, its FreeNAS centric but ZFS is basically ZFS and the knowledge would apply elsewhere. http://www.freenas.org/freenas-zfs-training/ BTW, I am in now way affiliated by them, Im Lone Wolf McQuade and no one would really hire me any ways :). - Brian SoCals #1 Sandpaper Superstore. More Grit For Less Green. To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribe
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    Hi, I think this is cool, its FreeNAS centric but ZFS is basically ZFS and the knowledge would apply elsewhere. http://www.freenas.org/freenas-zfs-training/ BTW, I am in now way affiliated by them, Im Lone Wolf McQuade and no one would really hire me any ways :). - Brian SoCals #1 Sandpaper Superstore. More Grit For Less Green. To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribe

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  • 04/27/14--13:55: isilon nfs restart
  • isilon nfs restart
    posted by Kevin Bass on April 27, 2014, 4:55 p.m.
    Hi all, I have a single node in my isilon cluster that is not responding to nfs requests. SMB requests are just fine. Anyone know if there is an easy way to just restart the nfs services on a single node while I wait for support to call me back on a Sunday? I guess the other option is to just fail that IP over to another node for now but that seems extreme. Thanks -Kevin B. To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribe
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    Hi all, I have a single node in my isilon cluster that is not responding to nfs requests. SMB requests are just fine. Anyone know if there is an easy way to just restart the nfs services on a single node while I wait for support to call me back on a Sunday? I guess the other option is to just fail that IP over to another node for now but that seems extreme. Thanks -Kevin B. To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribe

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  • 04/28/14--13:35: Art asset version control
  • Art asset version control
    posted by Robb Beggs on April 28, 2014, 4:35 p.m.
    Hi all,

    I'm used to supporting developers, where git is just fine for version control, but I have no idea how to best handle art assets and version control. Especially for a small studio. What kinds of solutions are you using?

    rjb
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    Hi all,

    I'm used to supporting developers, where git is just fine for version control, but I have no idea how to best handle art assets and version control. Especially for a small studio. What kinds of solutions are you using?

    rjb

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    StorNext and Strawberry for Avid
    posted by Terry Dale on April 28, 2014, 5 p.m.
    Hey we have been looking for a replacement for our old Avid Unity (7 editors). With all the shared file system products out now we have been very interested in StorNext with Strawberry. The plan would be to replace our Unity with a StorNext system then grow it to include playback for our Scratch systems as well (3 Suites). Does anyone out there have any experience with the StorNext product in an Avid environment? I would be very interested in the pros and cons of this experience and how it might compare to us just replacing our Unity with a new ISIS system for now. Any info is welcome. Thanks -Terry Terry Dale, V.P. Systems and Infrastructure p: 416.682.5258 | c: 416.993.8485 | f: 416.682.5209 Arc Productions Ltd. | 230 Richmond Street East | Toronto, ON M5A 1P4 www.arcproductions.com This e-mail, and any attachment, is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, re-transmission, copying, dissemination or other use of this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not the views of Arc Productions, Ltd. Please consider the environment before printing this email. To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribe
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    Hey we have been looking for a replacement for our old Avid Unity (7 editors). With all the shared file system products out now we have been very interested in StorNext with Strawberry. The plan would be to replace our Unity with a StorNext system then grow it to include playback for our Scratch systems as well (3 Suites). Does anyone out there have any experience with the StorNext product in an Avid environment? I would be very interested in the pros and cons of this experience and how it might compare to us just replacing our Unity with a new ISIS system for now. Any info is welcome. Thanks -Terry Terry Dale, V.P. Systems and Infrastructure p: 416.682.5258 | c: 416.993.8485 | f: 416.682.5209 Arc Productions Ltd. | 230 Richmond Street East | Toronto, ON M5A 1P4 www.arcproductions.com This e-mail, and any attachment, is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, re-transmission, copying, dissemination or other use of this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not the views of Arc Productions, Ltd. Please consider the environment before printing this email. To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribe

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    Render Node/Workstation Rentals In The Northeast
    posted by Rob Gestone on April 28, 2014, 5:42 p.m.

    Hi guys,

     

    Anyone know of a good place in the Northeast that does render node/computer workstation rentals? We're based in Boston and currently use Bell Computers in California, who are fantastic, but we'd like some local options in the event we need day turnarounds (and not have to pay for shipping from the West Coast). We primarily use Nuke, Maya, and some After Effects. Any recommendations out there?

     

    - Rob

     

    Rob Gestone
    IT Technician
    Zero VFX
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    Hi guys,

     

    Anyone know of a good place in the Northeast that does render node/computer workstation rentals? We're based in Boston and currently use Bell Computers in California, who are fantastic, but we'd like some local options in the event we need day turnarounds (and not have to pay for shipping from the West Coast). We primarily use Nuke, Maya, and some After Effects. Any recommendations out there?

     

    - Rob

     

    Rob Gestone
    IT Technician
    Zero VFX

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    StorNext 5 RoboCop PS4 Winners
    posted by Kris Kostiuk on April 29, 2014, 5:49 a.m.

    Thank you for attending the Quantum sponsored RoboCop screenings in Montreal, Toronto & Vancouver. We were very happy with the turn out and we hope everyone had a fun time while learning a little bit about Quantum's StorNext 5 Appliances, automated LTFS archival workflows & Lattus Object Storage. We are planning to host similar events this year - please let us know how we can make these fun too.

    Check out this video of the next generation StorNext animation/VFX workflow at Digic Pictures - they've eliminated islands of storage and leveraged StorNext for both real-time playback performance for video editorial, dailies & finishing together with unlimited Distributed LAN Client for render and compositing. 

    To learn more about what we launched at NAB, please visit our M&E Site with Quantum's new StorNext Pro Solutions including 4K Playback & Automated Archive workflows: http://www.stornext.com/

     

    I'm pleased to annouce the PlayStation 4 Winners from the RoboCop Screenings - Congratulations!!!

    Vancouver: Jason Navarro (Gener8)

    Toronto: Eric Potma (Technicolor Toronto)

    Montreal: Rafi Lokmagozyan (National Film Board) 

    Thank you.

    Kris Kostiuk| Country Manager, Canada - Big Data & Cloud | Quantum Corporation | Mobile: +1 (604) 818-7207 | kris.kostiuk@quantum.com

     

     

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    Thank you for attending the Quantum sponsored RoboCop screenings in Montreal, Toronto & Vancouver. We were very happy with the turn out and we hope everyone had a fun time while learning a little bit about Quantum's StorNext 5 Appliances, automated LTFS archival workflows & Lattus Object Storage. We are planning to host similar events this year - please let us know how we can make these fun too.

    Check out this video of the next generation StorNext animation/VFX workflow at Digic Pictures - they've eliminated islands of storage and leveraged StorNext for both real-time playback performance for video editorial, dailies & finishing together with unlimited Distributed LAN Client for render and compositing. 

    To learn more about what we launched at NAB, please visit our M&E Site with Quantum's new StorNext Pro Solutions including 4K Playback & Automated Archive workflows: http://www.stornext.com/

     

    I'm pleased to annouce the PlayStation 4 Winners from the RoboCop Screenings - Congratulations!!!

    Vancouver: Jason Navarro (Gener8)

    Toronto: Eric Potma (Technicolor Toronto)

    Montreal: Rafi Lokmagozyan (National Film Board) 

    Thank you.

    Kris Kostiuk| Country Manager, Canada - Big Data & Cloud | Quantum Corporation | Mobile: +1 (604) 818-7207 | kris.kostiuk@quantum.com

     

     


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    good 3D Blue Ray Player for meeting rooms.
    posted by Greg Whynott on April 29, 2014, 2 p.m.
    Looking for some recommendations on a good Blue Ray player for the customer room which won't break in 12 months. We have gone threw 2 LG players in as many years, and they always break when we have outside folks in it seems.. 8(

    -g


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    Looking for some recommendations on a good Blue Ray player for the customer room which won't break in 12 months. We have gone threw 2 LG players in as many years, and they always break when we have outside folks in it seems.. 8(

    -g



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  • 04/29/14--15:05: rent Ultra Studio 4k
  • rent Ultra Studio 4k
    posted by Tommy Asbee on April 29, 2014, 6:05 p.m.
    Anyone know who may rent these in LA? -Tommy To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribe
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    Anyone know who may rent these in LA? -Tommy To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribe

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    So does this means it will be easier to lose more data?
    posted by Saker Klippsten on April 30, 2014, 8:50 p.m. (2 days ago)
    http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/201404/14-044E/index.html


    148GB per Inch on a tape vs LTO6's 2GB per Inch

    The problem I have is not that I need larger tapes to hold more data.. but that I need more drives
    (running concurrently ) to shrink my archive window.

    How about a cheaper drive? or a drive that can write faster to tape :) Then again we do not max out a consistent state what a single LTO6 Drive can do writing to tape... anyways..

    I like the cheaper drive idea better, so I can have more of them...



    -S

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    http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/201404/14-044E/index.html


    148GB per Inch on a tape vs LTO6's 2GB per Inch

    The problem I have is not that I need larger tapes to hold more data.. but that I need more drives
    (running concurrently ) to shrink my archive window.

    How about a cheaper drive? or a drive that can write faster to tape :) Then again we do not max out a consistent state what a single LTO6 Drive can do writing to tape... anyways..

    I like the cheaper drive idea better, so I can have more of them...



    -S


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    Join Pixar & Escape Technology @ BAFTA on May 29th
    posted by Neil Kalsi on May 1, 2014, 11:30 a.m. (1 day ago)

    Hi All,

    I would like to invite you all to join Pixar & Escape Technology @ BAFTA on May 29th for an event we are hosting.

    Please see this URL for more information and sign up quickly whilst spaces are available! http://lnkd.in/bZKGTYf

    Register Now

     

     

    Thanks

    Neil.

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    Hi All,

    I would like to invite you all to join Pixar & Escape Technology @ BAFTA on May 29th for an event we are hosting.

    Please see this URL for more information and sign up quickly whilst spaces are available! http://lnkd.in/bZKGTYf

    Register Now

     

     

    Thanks

    Neil.


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    So does this means it will be easier to lose more data?
    posted by Paul Roche on May 1, 2014, 6:20 p.m. (1 day ago)
    I assumed it was tape based as well, but this guy thinks its optical

    http://storagemojo.com/2014/04/25/amazons-glacier-secret-bdxl/

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    From: studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com [studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com] on behalf of Jean-Francois Panisset [panisset@gmail.com]
    Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 3:12 PM
    To: studiosysadmins-discuss@studiosysadmins.com
    Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] So does this means it will be easier to lose more data?

    It is widely rumored that Amazon Glacier is based on tape libraries. I find that in the specific case of commercials, there's a sharp falloff in the likelihood of a project having to be restored after about a year: most of the data we archive is never brought back. But no one is ever willing to (or has the time to) determine that "OK, at this point this project will never come back, we can just throw it away". The economics of tape a hard to beat in the context of "we need a medium that allows people to not make decisions".

    JF




    On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 12:31 PM, <doug63@gmail.com> wrote:
    Some of the largest cloud storage providers are using a surprise amount of tape.  

    Think of a river and a non word that has become a noun and a verb.  

    Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 smartphone.

    Douglas Atkinson
    604-619-9430
    From: Jeff Yana
    Sent: Thursday, May 1, 2014 20:45
    Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] So does this means it will be easier to lose more data?

    In the context of LTFS it makes perfect sense, but otherwise your point is taken. While Moores law applies in tape drive industry (in so far as speeds and capacities go), it surely has not had an impact with pricing. I guess the best you can hope for is that prices dont increase as they did in the video world with the intro of new formats.

    I like tape (especially in the era of LTFS), but in the dueling era of falling cloud storage prices and cheaper and cheaper, faster and faster bandwidth, the writing is on the wall, its inevtable.



    From: Saker Klippsten <sakerk@gmail.com>
    Subject: [SSA-Discuss] So does this means it will be easier to lose more data?
    Date: April 30, 2014 at 5:46:22 PM PDT


    http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/201404/14-044E/index.html


    148GB per Inch on a tape vs LTO6's 2GB per Inch

    The problem I have is not that I need larger tapes to hold more data.. but that I need more drives  
    (running concurrently ) to shrink my archive window.

    How about a cheaper drive? or a drive that can write faster to tape :)  Then again we do not max out a consistent state what a single LTO6 Drive can do writing to tape... anyways..

    I like the cheaper drive idea better, so I can have more of them...



    -S




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    I assumed it was tape based as well, but this guy thinks its optical

    http://storagemojo.com/2014/04/25/amazons-glacier-secret-bdxl/

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    From: studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com [studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com] on behalf of Jean-Francois Panisset [panisset@gmail.com]
    Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 3:12 PM
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    Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] So does this means it will be easier to lose more data?

    It is widely rumored that Amazon Glacier is based on tape libraries. I find that in the specific case of commercials, there's a sharp falloff in the likelihood of a project having to be restored after about a year: most of the data we archive is never brought back. But no one is ever willing to (or has the time to) determine that "OK, at this point this project will never come back, we can just throw it away". The economics of tape a hard to beat in the context of "we need a medium that allows people to not make decisions".

    JF




    On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 12:31 PM, <doug63@gmail.com> wrote:
    Some of the largest cloud storage providers are using a surprise amount of tape.  

    Think of a river and a non word that has become a noun and a verb.  

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    From: Jeff Yana
    Sent: Thursday, May 1, 2014 20:45
    Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] So does this means it will be easier to lose more data?

    In the context of LTFS it makes perfect sense, but otherwise your point is taken. While Moores law applies in tape drive industry (in so far as speeds and capacities go), it surely has not had an impact with pricing. I guess the best you can hope for is that prices dont increase as they did in the video world with the intro of new formats.

    I like tape (especially in the era of LTFS), but in the dueling era of falling cloud storage prices and cheaper and cheaper, faster and faster bandwidth, the writing is on the wall, its inevtable.



    From: Saker Klippsten <sakerk@gmail.com>
    Subject: [SSA-Discuss] So does this means it will be easier to lose more data?
    Date: April 30, 2014 at 5:46:22 PM PDT


    http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/201404/14-044E/index.html


    148GB per Inch on a tape vs LTO6's 2GB per Inch

    The problem I have is not that I need larger tapes to hold more data.. but that I need more drives  
    (running concurrently ) to shrink my archive window.

    How about a cheaper drive? or a drive that can write faster to tape :)  Then again we do not max out a consistent state what a single LTO6 Drive can do writing to tape... anyways..

    I like the cheaper drive idea better, so I can have more of them...



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