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will we be able to buy HDS Blue Arc products anymore?
posted by Jeff Yana on March 22, 2014, 3:20 p.m. (1 day ago)
I guess it all depends on what you mean by small deployments.  These days you can get starter configs for well under $75K, depending on your requirements. If by deployment size you mean price-point, and that price point is $20K, then I would agree with you, they would not be interested, but no other commercial storage vendor would be interested either. HDSs street pricing per TB is less than half that of their nearest competitors, in case you are wondering. As we all have repeated over and over again on this forum, its all about the use-case and the right tool for the right job, and sometimes its just a matter of individual bias.

Its a laudable goal to save money and shop around for the best value, every one should, but if price is the only thing you value, then you just might be chasing yourself down the rabbit hole. 

-jy

On Mar 21, 2014, at 8:40 PM, studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com wrote:

From: studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com [mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com] On Behalf Of greg whynott
Sent: Friday, 21 March 2014 8:23 AM
To: studiosysadmins-discuss
Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] will we be able to buy HDS Blue Arc products anymore?

 

 i'm just axn' muh self.  8)  

it really wouldnt surprise me they are leaving as HDS was never really into "small" deployments.    They like working with fortune 500 companies,  government and the like.    The average storage solution deals they make probably start at 7 figures and go way up quickly.  

I mused here a few years back that Blue Arc needed to figure something else out,  like PNFS or similar.   I don't think any one device is going to be able to keep up with demands going forward and you'll see more and more solutions depending spreading the load wide or distributed over autonomous systems.

but i could be wrong... I just don't see how they are going to clock things much faster,  the last time I spoke to someone who know much more than I on the subject,  they said CPU's and ASICs can't be clocked much faster with todays technology as they are running into the physical limitations,  as in they can't make an electron stay in a trace..  maybe they'll figure something out...


Perhaps the solution is with auxilleray devices,  such as Avere offers..  not a faster file-systems but an object handler with less over head.. 

back to the bag!

-g


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I guess it all depends on what you mean by small deployments.  These days you can get starter configs for well under $75K, depending on your requirements. If by deployment size you mean price-point, and that price point is $20K, then I would agree with you, they would not be interested, but no other commercial storage vendor would be interested either. HDSs street pricing per TB is less than half that of their nearest competitors, in case you are wondering. As we all have repeated over and over again on this forum, its all about the use-case and the right tool for the right job, and sometimes its just a matter of individual bias.

Its a laudable goal to save money and shop around for the best value, every one should, but if price is the only thing you value, then you just might be chasing yourself down the rabbit hole. 

-jy

On Mar 21, 2014, at 8:40 PM, studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com wrote:

From: studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com [mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com] On Behalf Of greg whynott
Sent: Friday, 21 March 2014 8:23 AM
To: studiosysadmins-discuss
Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] will we be able to buy HDS Blue Arc products anymore?

 

 i'm just axn' muh self.  8)  

it really wouldnt surprise me they are leaving as HDS was never really into "small" deployments.    They like working with fortune 500 companies,  government and the like.    The average storage solution deals they make probably start at 7 figures and go way up quickly.  

I mused here a few years back that Blue Arc needed to figure something else out,  like PNFS or similar.   I don't think any one device is going to be able to keep up with demands going forward and you'll see more and more solutions depending spreading the load wide or distributed over autonomous systems.

but i could be wrong... I just don't see how they are going to clock things much faster,  the last time I spoke to someone who know much more than I on the subject,  they said CPU's and ASICs can't be clocked much faster with todays technology as they are running into the physical limitations,  as in they can't make an electron stay in a trace..  maybe they'll figure something out...


Perhaps the solution is with auxilleray devices,  such as Avere offers..  not a faster file-systems but an object handler with less over head.. 

back to the bag!

-g



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