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So does this means it will be easier to lose more data?
posted by Paul Roche on May 1, 2014, 6:20 p.m. (1 day ago)
I assumed it was tape based as well, but this guy thinks its optical

http://storagemojo.com/2014/04/25/amazons-glacier-secret-bdxl/

Paul R.

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From: studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com [studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com] on behalf of Jean-Francois Panisset [panisset@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 3:12 PM
To: studiosysadmins-discuss@studiosysadmins.com
Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] So does this means it will be easier to lose more data?

It is widely rumored that Amazon Glacier is based on tape libraries. I find that in the specific case of commercials, there's a sharp falloff in the likelihood of a project having to be restored after about a year: most of the data we archive is never brought back. But no one is ever willing to (or has the time to) determine that "OK, at this point this project will never come back, we can just throw it away". The economics of tape a hard to beat in the context of "we need a medium that allows people to not make decisions".

JF




On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 12:31 PM, <doug63@gmail.com> wrote:
Some of the largest cloud storage providers are using a surprise amount of tape.  

Think of a river and a non word that has become a noun and a verb.  

Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 smartphone.

Douglas Atkinson
604-619-9430
From: Jeff Yana
Sent: Thursday, May 1, 2014 20:45
Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] So does this means it will be easier to lose more data?

In the context of LTFS it makes perfect sense, but otherwise your point is taken. While Moores law applies in tape drive industry (in so far as speeds and capacities go), it surely has not had an impact with pricing. I guess the best you can hope for is that prices dont increase as they did in the video world with the intro of new formats.

I like tape (especially in the era of LTFS), but in the dueling era of falling cloud storage prices and cheaper and cheaper, faster and faster bandwidth, the writing is on the wall, its inevtable.



From: Saker Klippsten <sakerk@gmail.com>
Subject: [SSA-Discuss] So does this means it will be easier to lose more data?
Date: April 30, 2014 at 5:46:22 PM PDT


http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/201404/14-044E/index.html


148GB per Inch on a tape vs LTO6's 2GB per Inch

The problem I have is not that I need larger tapes to hold more data.. but that I need more drives  
(running concurrently ) to shrink my archive window.

How about a cheaper drive? or a drive that can write faster to tape :)  Then again we do not max out a consistent state what a single LTO6 Drive can do writing to tape... anyways..

I like the cheaper drive idea better, so I can have more of them...



-S




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I assumed it was tape based as well, but this guy thinks its optical

http://storagemojo.com/2014/04/25/amazons-glacier-secret-bdxl/

Paul R.

--
Paul Roche

System Administrator


t. 604 714 2600 ext 2051

f. 604 714 2641

proche@rainmaker.com


Rainmaker Entertainment Inc.

#200 - 2025 West Broadway


Vancouver, British Columbia

Canada,  V6J 1Z6

www.rainmaker.com



From: studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com [studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com] on behalf of Jean-Francois Panisset [panisset@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 3:12 PM
To: studiosysadmins-discuss@studiosysadmins.com
Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] So does this means it will be easier to lose more data?

It is widely rumored that Amazon Glacier is based on tape libraries. I find that in the specific case of commercials, there's a sharp falloff in the likelihood of a project having to be restored after about a year: most of the data we archive is never brought back. But no one is ever willing to (or has the time to) determine that "OK, at this point this project will never come back, we can just throw it away". The economics of tape a hard to beat in the context of "we need a medium that allows people to not make decisions".

JF




On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 12:31 PM, <doug63@gmail.com> wrote:
Some of the largest cloud storage providers are using a surprise amount of tape.  

Think of a river and a non word that has become a noun and a verb.  

Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 smartphone.

Douglas Atkinson
604-619-9430
From: Jeff Yana
Sent: Thursday, May 1, 2014 20:45
Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] So does this means it will be easier to lose more data?

In the context of LTFS it makes perfect sense, but otherwise your point is taken. While Moores law applies in tape drive industry (in so far as speeds and capacities go), it surely has not had an impact with pricing. I guess the best you can hope for is that prices dont increase as they did in the video world with the intro of new formats.

I like tape (especially in the era of LTFS), but in the dueling era of falling cloud storage prices and cheaper and cheaper, faster and faster bandwidth, the writing is on the wall, its inevtable.



From: Saker Klippsten <sakerk@gmail.com>
Subject: [SSA-Discuss] So does this means it will be easier to lose more data?
Date: April 30, 2014 at 5:46:22 PM PDT


http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/201404/14-044E/index.html


148GB per Inch on a tape vs LTO6's 2GB per Inch

The problem I have is not that I need larger tapes to hold more data.. but that I need more drives  
(running concurrently ) to shrink my archive window.

How about a cheaper drive? or a drive that can write faster to tape :)  Then again we do not max out a consistent state what a single LTO6 Drive can do writing to tape... anyways..

I like the cheaper drive idea better, so I can have more of them...



-S




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