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posted by Saker Klippsten on July 29, 2015, 6:10 p.m. (1 day ago)
This is just a brain dump..

I have be researching COLO's for a bit for our NY Office. You might want to reach out toMatt Easton @ Internap, measton@internap.com
They have one of their COLO in Secauscus NJ. Hop Skip and Jump from the City.Besides just rack space.. they offer many other Services. Cloud Compute, backup etc..
I have not pulled the trigger yet with them but compared to anything on the Island its much less expensive.


Currently we use a mixture of Isilon NL108 and 400 Nodes for up to the min DR and Snapshots and upon project completion we do final project archive using Spectra Logic 380 Libraries and LTO-6 Media.
DR for Vancouver is in LA and Vice-Versa. Now that we have NY looking into adding another potential replica site or even moving LA to NY ( Thanks to the New Yorker Article ) hahah


As far as a cloud argument?
I was just reading up on googles new storage-nearline offering with 3ms retrieval time and 1cent per GB.

1cent per GB per month so that's about $1500 a month for 150TB. I am sure there are taxes.. as well.

vs. Colo with Tape.

All #'s off the top of my head very rough..

Tape: Cost would be about once time cost of $3000 ( 60 tapes with 2.5TB per tape @ $50each ) one set or copy of the data
Library: Cost at say 50k for a 60 tape loader with 1 drive.
Software: Cost 3500? if using Bakbone
Colo Cost: Half Rack just for Robot , Server and switch? ~1500/month? with Connectivity and Power? Taxes etc..
Offiste tape storage cost for second set of tapes? I am not putting this into the equation..

~74K with a potential 56k up front cost.

*It would take you about 49 Months ( ~4 years ) to see that $ back vs the cost of Google Cloud Archive and just another $1500 to pull down that 150TB when needed

*How long do you need to hold on to that data? Indefinitely? Or will that 150TB be updated periodically and purged out..will that 150TB grow ? if so how much?

* If you were to add another 150TB over the course of a year. thats another 21k ( cost of tape plus monthly colo. vs google cloud depending upon how fast you uploaded 150tb you could spend as much as 18ki if you uploaded in January or as little as $1500 if you uploaded 150TB in December..

* Its really all about understanding how long your data needs to live. This will really dictate the cost benefit of rolling your own on prem or colo vs cloud.

* There is also the convenience factor and simplicity of the cloud I did not take into account. Not having to drive or deal with a colo to change tapes or just dealing with tapes.


Decisions.... you always get screwed somehow right?



-S





On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 1:52 PM, William Sandler <william.sandler@allthingsmedia.com> wrote:
Any favorites?

Or if anyone has a convincing argument to go with managed cloud storage instead to backup ~150TB.

What are you guys using for off-site backups of your storage appliances?



William Sandler

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This is just a brain dump..

I have be researching COLO's for a bit for our NY Office. You might want to reach out toMatt Easton @ Internap, measton@internap.com
They have one of their COLO in Secauscus NJ. Hop Skip and Jump from the City.Besides just rack space.. they offer many other Services. Cloud Compute, backup etc..
I have not pulled the trigger yet with them but compared to anything on the Island its much less expensive.


Currently we use a mixture of Isilon NL108 and 400 Nodes for up to the min DR and Snapshots and upon project completion we do final project archive using Spectra Logic 380 Libraries and LTO-6 Media.
DR for Vancouver is in LA and Vice-Versa. Now that we have NY looking into adding another potential replica site or even moving LA to NY ( Thanks to the New Yorker Article ) hahah


As far as a cloud argument?
I was just reading up on googles new storage-nearline offering with 3ms retrieval time and 1cent per GB.

1cent per GB per month so that's about $1500 a month for 150TB. I am sure there are taxes.. as well.

vs. Colo with Tape.

All #'s off the top of my head very rough..

Tape: Cost would be about once time cost of $3000 ( 60 tapes with 2.5TB per tape @ $50each ) one set or copy of the data
Library: Cost at say 50k for a 60 tape loader with 1 drive.
Software: Cost 3500? if using Bakbone
Colo Cost: Half Rack just for Robot , Server and switch? ~1500/month? with Connectivity and Power? Taxes etc..
Offiste tape storage cost for second set of tapes? I am not putting this into the equation..

~74K with a potential 56k up front cost.

*It would take you about 49 Months ( ~4 years ) to see that $ back vs the cost of Google Cloud Archive and just another $1500 to pull down that 150TB when needed

*How long do you need to hold on to that data? Indefinitely? Or will that 150TB be updated periodically and purged out..will that 150TB grow ? if so how much?

* If you were to add another 150TB over the course of a year. thats another 21k ( cost of tape plus monthly colo. vs google cloud depending upon how fast you uploaded 150tb you could spend as much as 18ki if you uploaded in January or as little as $1500 if you uploaded 150TB in December..

* Its really all about understanding how long your data needs to live. This will really dictate the cost benefit of rolling your own on prem or colo vs cloud.

* There is also the convenience factor and simplicity of the cloud I did not take into account. Not having to drive or deal with a colo to change tapes or just dealing with tapes.


Decisions.... you always get screwed somehow right?



-S





On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 1:52 PM, William Sandler <william.sandler@allthingsmedia.com> wrote:
Any favorites?

Or if anyone has a convincing argument to go with managed cloud storage instead to backup ~150TB.

What are you guys using for off-site backups of your storage appliances?



William Sandler

To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribe


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